With The Perrys

Best of WTP – How to Fight For Your Marriage

With The Perrys is taking some time this summer to revisit popular episodes from years past. Jackie and Preston sit down with mentors and friends CD and Melody Fabien to talk about what it really looks like to fight for intimacy in marriage. They unpack some of the habits and rhythms that quietly create distance, the importance of healthy communication, and why it's so easy to start building a case against your spouse instead of pursuing connection. Whether you're newly married or decades in, this conversation offers practical wisdom for navigating conflict, staying connected, and growing in oneness together. Connect with Melody and CD Fabien: https://cdandmelody.com/ https://www.instagram.com/melodyfabien https://www.instagram.com/cdfabien/ https://www.youtube.com/@hangingwiththefabiens Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Best of WTP – Depression, Suffering, and the Faithfulness of God's Presence

TRIGGER WARNING: This episode discusses suicidal ideation. With The Perrys is taking some time this summer to revisit popular episodes from years past. Brenna Blain is a wife, mom, and theologian who talks honestly about faith, suffering, and mental health. Brenna shares her story of running from God, eventually finding herself in YWAM, and later navigating a bipolar diagnosis, psych ward stays, and some of the darkest days of her life. Brenna, Jackie, and Preston talk about depression, suffering, and what it looks like to love people well when there aren't easy answers. Connect with Brenna: https://www.instagram.com/bunonmyhead/ https://brenna-blain.vercel.app/ Order Brenna’s book, Can I Say That?: How Unsafe Questions Lead Us to the Real God – https://www.amazon.com/Can-Say-That-Unsafe-Questions/dp/1400339944 Listen to Brenna’s podcast, Can I Say That? https://pod.link/1469288735 This Episode is Sponsored By: https://gominno.com/ — Sign up online with code PERRY to get your first month FREE! The best businesses aren’t built in boardrooms. They’re built by people who just started. Free trial at http://shopify.com/perry - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Let’s Talk About Deconstruction

Nobody “deconstructs” from Christianity in a day. Deconstruction is not an immediate decision but a process in which someone questions, dissects and assesses what they believe. But what some people are calling deconstruction is actually heresy and false teaching. There’s a thoughtful and Biblical way to evaluate your faith, so let’s talk about it. Pastor Jerome Gay, Jr. joins the Perrys to discuss the seven reasons people deconstruct, the importance of critical thinking and apologetics, and the compassion required for walking with someone who is deconstructing. Connect with Pastor Jerome Gay, Jr. https://www.instagram.com/jeromegay https://jeromegayjr.com/ Check out Pastor Jerome’s book, “Church Hurt: Holding the Church Accountable and Helping Hurt People Heal” – https://www.amazon.com/Church-Hurt-Holding-Accountable-Helping/dp/1952602548 This Episode is Sponsored By: https://meetfabric.com/perry — Help protect your family today with Fabric by Gerber Life. You could be offered coverage instantly with NO health exam required! https://weekendtoremember.com — Register now with code PERRY to save $100 on any getaway! Https://fieldofgreens.com — Get 20% off with promo code PERRY Scripture References: Romans 3:15 Romans 1:22 1 John 4:7-8 John 14:15 1 Corinthians 6:18 Matthew 16:24 Ephesians 6 Exodus 21:16 Genesis 3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

When the Leaders We Love Fail Us

From public scandals to private betrayals that never make the news, experiencing the failure of a leader is both heartbreaking and disorienting. When someone leads a church community or is esteemed as a hero, the fallout of their failure is felt even more.  Lisa Fields joins Jackie and Preston for an honest conversation about leadership betrayal. They discuss what healthy admiration looks like, how to navigate the grief of failed leadership without becoming cynical, and why restoration doesn't always mean a return to the platform. Scripture References: John 21 1 John 3 Galatians 6:1 This Episode is Sponsored By: After Amen by Tyler Staton - Available at: Amazon - https://nelsonbooks.co/after-amen-amazon Christian Book - https://nelsonbooks.co/after-amen-cb, and B&N - https://nelsonbooks.co/BN-Amen https://gominno.com/ — Sign up online with code PERRY to get your first month FREE! Check out “When Heroes Fall: Healing from the Aftermath of Sin” – https://www.amazon.com/When-Heroes-Fall-Healing-Aftermath/dp/0593603109  Follow Lisa on Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/lisavfields/  https://lisavfields.com/  Lisa’s last conversation on With The Perrys, “How to Wrestle With God” – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwTKOItm3Wo - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

How to be a Christian When Persecuted

Earlier this month, Jackie found herself at the center of a Threads post that generated a whole lot of conversation. It got her and Preston thinking about the opposition we face as Christians because of a worldview that is confusing to unbelievers. NOTE: For most of us, the persecution we face is social in nature – that’s different from persecution others face around the world when they risk their lives professing Christ. As Christians, we’re not supposed to defend ourselves. We’re supposed to preach the gospel and leverage opposition as an opportunity to point others to Jesus. Jackie and Preston discuss a helpful framework for approaching unbelievers, why it’s important to lead with compassion, and the reason why both prayer and patience are required for those conversations. Scripture References: 2 Corinthians 4:4-6 1 Peter 3:15-16 Nehemiah 4:17–18 This Episode is Sponsored By: https://shopify.com/perry — Sign up for your $1 per-month trial today! - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices