The NonFunGerbils Podcast

Lisbon 25: Vesa

Veteran crypto artist Vesa joins the show to discuss his unique journey from film director and digital pioneer to a leading voice in the NFT space since 2016. Vesa explains that his entry into crypto art was driven by a deep understanding of money and decentralization, not market hype. He shares the powerful story of his early work with actress Veena Malik and how he sees art as a vehicle for cultural and financial change. Hear his crucial advice for artists entering the space: you must follow the "wax on, wax off" principle and understand the foundation of the technology and investing—there is no shortcut. He also delves into the philosophical nature of creativity, arguing that art's true power comes from transcendent experiences, and why being a "Bitcoin centrist" offers the necessary grounding to survive market cycles. Follow Vesa on Twitter Watch the interview on YouTube Check out our blog

Lisbon 25: Bitoshi Blockamoto

In this deep-dive, we talk to Bitoshi Blockomoto, the mastermind behind Bitmap, the decentralized metaverse protocol built on Bitcoin. Bitoshi explains the radical idea: every Bitcoin block is a district in the metaverse, and the entire world was claimed by the community through an open, competitive inscription process. Find out how Bitmap grew to over 40,000 holders, making it the largest metaverse by count, and why Bitoshi believes its success is due to its pure decentralization. He also breaks down the future of Ordinals, arguing that its power lies in composability through recursion, which allows builders to create complex, on-chain applications without smart contracts. Finally, hear about the ambitious roadmap for Atlas and Termina, Bitoshi's vision for a complete, Bitcoin-based operating system that is permanent, uncensorable, and accessible even offline. Follow Bitoshi on Twitter Watch the interview on YouTube Check out our blog

Lisbon 25: Johan

Meme coin culture is "sad." That's the candid take from the meme.com team, who join us to discuss the state of the space and how they plan to fix it with their new Diamond Hand game. They share why so many coins fizzle out and argue that a true meme coin should be valued like an NFT: held because you love the culture, not for future utility or pump-and-dump potential. Find out which memes are considered the Grails (Pepe, Bobo, Doge, etc.) that will last forever, and why new trends like Skibbidi Toilet are important. Plus, get the alpha on signing up for their new game! Follow Johan on Twitter Follow Meme on Twitter Follow Rizzle on Twitter Watch the interview on YouTube Check out our blog

Lisbon 25: Satta Labs

In this episode, we meet Maggie, founder of Satta Labs, who is tackling a vital gap in education: teaching children essential money habits. Maggie explains the concept behind her gamified learning app, which features 12 cute AI-powered princesses and princes that mentor kids through lessons on savings, budgeting, and the value of money. She shares her personal motivation for building the app which is to help her younger self and those struggling with finance. Crucially, Maggie discusses the challenges of integrating Web3 into a consumer product. She details why she must keep the fact that Satta is building on-chain "on the download" when talking to parents and teachers, who are often instantly opposed to crypto. Listen to why she believes Satta Labs could be the gateway application that helps shift the public narrative toward accepting blockchain technology. Follow Satta on Twitter Watch the interview on YouTube Check out our blog

Lisbon 25: Nytmare

In this conversation from the NFC Summit, Nytmare, co-founder and Community Lead at WHALE, discusses the organization's journey from focusing primarily on its vault to becoming a powerful, culture-centric DAO. Nytmare shares how the community became WHALE's foundation during the bear market, allowing them to pivot toward initiatives like their curated live gallery in New York. Listen as he explains the importance of cultural alignment and collaboration with groups like the Cult of Crypto Art, emphasizing that WHALE's role is to provide resources so that community members can build their own success. Nytmare concludes by reflecting on the privilege of making an imprint on the cultural tapestry of the digital art world. Follow Nytmare on Twitter: https://twitter.com/nytmare Watch the interview on YouTube: https://youtu.be/yjJq97fqwUM?si=HTnhrfaEfkoYBB8P Check out our blog: https://nonfungerbils.com/podcast/lisbon25-nytmare