The Josh Bersin Company

The Josh Bersin Company

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Insider Insights on Corporate Talent, Learning, and HR Technology, with analyst perspectives, executive interviews, and in-depth vendor analysis.

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AI-Based Recruiting Lawsuits: Some History And Where This Is Going.

Jan 31st, 2026 3:52 AM

AI-driven recruiting is on the hot seat and it’s only getting hotter. Most job seekers now experience AI-interviewers, AI-based screening, and even chatbots that can automate the entire process. And as this market grows, two new lawsuits (one against Workday, one against Eightfold) have emerged, indicating the “fear” job seekers have about this technology. In the meantime, vendors are gobbling up these tools. This includes Workday’s $1 billion acquisition of Paradox (and Hiredscore), SAP’s acquisition of Smartrecruiters, Outmatch’s acquisition of Pymetrics (renamed Harver), UKG’s acquisition of Chattr (renamed Rapid Hire), Radancy’s acquisition of myInterview, Hirevue’s acquisition of Modern Hire, Cornerstone’s acquisition of Skyhive (following acquisition of Clustree), Lightcast’s acquisition of Rhetorik, and more. Where is all this going? As I discuss, this is an enormous ($840 billion) market and there’s a lot yet to come. As I discuss, we are entering a whole new set of demands, demands for quality, explainability, skills verification, and bias-detection. One of the big new trends is what we call “vertical data labeling” to increase transparency and quality. (The pioneer here is a company called Findem.) So for you as a buyer or user, it’s a time to focus on data and AI accuracy and completeness. Like this podcast? Rate us on Spotify or Apple or YouTube. Additional Information The Great Reinvention of Human Resources Has Begun People Data For Sale: How The Talent Intelligence Market Really Works The Talent Acquisition Revolution: How AI is Transforming Recruiting Imperatives for 2026: What’s Ahead for Enterprise AI, HR, Jobs, And Organizations Get Galileo: The World’s AI Agent For Everything HR  

How Costa Coffee Uses AI To Hire "Best Fit" Staff Which Candidates Love!

Jan 29th, 2026 8:46 PM

David Hughes, the Global People Leader for Costa Coffee (now at HSBC), discusses the company’s innovative approach to hiring using AI. Costa Coffee, a global brand with over 2,000 stores in the UK, faces significant hiring challenges due to high turnover rates and the need to hire thousands of baristas annually. David explains how Costa has shifted its focus from hiring the “best” talent to finding the “best fit” talent that aligns with the company’s values and culture. Using Sapia’s AI chat-based assessment, Costa has built a simple 5-question open chat survey that lets Costa identify the culture, behavioral, and work skills for best fit. This process not only scales to 350,000+ candidates, it also gives each candidate a personalized assessment and is rated 9 out of 10 on netpromoter score. In other words, candidates love it! David emphasizes the importance of patience and bravery in adopting AI, highlighting the positive impact on both recruitment efficiency and candidate satisfaction. Like this podcast? Rate us on Spotify or Apple or YouTube. Additional Information The Talent Acquisition Revolution: How AI is Transforming Recruiting (research) The Great Reinvention of Human Resources Has Begun The Art, Science, And Magic Of Recruiting In The World of AI (podcast) Chapters (00:00:03) - How AI Is Affecting Costa Coffee's Hiring(00:01:16) - Interview(00:01:56) - Costa Coffee's Talent Challenges(00:04:10) - How to Hire the Right People for the Frontline(00:05:06) - Baristas: How to Get the Best Out of Your Job(00:06:53) - How Costa Coffee Is Using AI in the Job Search(00:12:24) - What was difficult about the AI journey at Costa Coffee?(00:16:22) - What are some of the metrics of the Costa Experience?(00:19:10) - The Sense of AI in the Job Search(00:20:32) - Congratulations on your AI push(00:21:39) - What Works With Costa Coffee's Talent Director

Radancy Integrates Recruitment And Launches New Copilot

Jan 27th, 2026 12:08 PM

In this podcast I talk with Nathan Perrott, VP of Innovation at Radancy. Radancy is a major provider of integrated recruiting tools, all integrated in what’s called the Radancy Talent Acquisition Cloud. You may not recognize the name, but Radancy is actually one of the pioneers in talent acquisition, originally started as TMP Worldwide. Over the last 40 years the company has been involved in all aspects of technology-enabled recruitment, (including Monster.com), so they understand job advertising, social media, candidate experience, branding, automated screening, and now AI-powered interviewing. The company’s integrated platform is one of the most end-to-end recruitment systems in the market (handles everything except the ATS) and more than 700 large corporations rely on Radancy. Nathan has been in this space for many years so I ask him to explain how the market has changed, what their new AI copilot is all about, and how companies can save money and get ahead of the massive AI-fueled candidate and job posting market today. Additional Information The Great Reinvention of Human Resources Has Begun Yes, AI Is Really Impacting The Job Market. Here’s What To Do. Imperatives for 2026: What’s Ahead for Enterprise AI, HR, Jobs, And Organizations The Collapse And Rebirth Of Online Learning And Professional Development Get Galileo: The World’s AI Agent For Everything HR and Leadership Chapters (00:00:00) - An introduction to Talent Acquisition Software by Nathan Parrott(00:02:14) - Have we reached a saturation point in HR tech?(00:04:19) - Tim Ferriss: The Future of Talent Acquisition(00:11:27) - How AI is transforming Talent Agency (TA)(00:13:00) - The Super Agent(00:16:10) - Reasons for Sequel: The Future of Talent Acquisition(00:20:28) - HCM Integrations: What Have We Learned?(00:23:18) - WSJD Live: How to transform HR with AI(00:25:44) - How to Prioritize Hiring(00:26:43) - Podcast With Facebook's Nathan Silver

Why We're Witnessing The Biggest Transformation of HR in Decades

Jan 24th, 2026 11:49 AM

The HR profession is about to go through its biggest transformation in decades. To use a new phrase, this is a “rupture” from the past as we shift to new world of AI agents and superagents automating much of what we do. In this podcast I explain how 30-40% of AI jobs and roles will change, and how HR will become even more strategic as a result. And this is not a story of layoffs or cost reduction: rather we see AI helping to transform HR into a business function that accelerates scale, time to market, customer value, and both employee and customer experience. I also discuss why and how AI accuracy and trust is going to become enormously more important overnight as agents speed up and automate our human capital work. I’m very inspired by what’s about to happen and I want you, as a business or HR professional, to understand and thrive in this new world. This is why we’ve loaded our AI Blueprint and all our analysis of HR roles and operations into Galileo, which serves as a consulting tool, learning tool, and problem solving agent. If you’re inspired by this transformation agenda I hope you reach out to us so we can help you and your company build your own AI agenda for the years ahead. Additional Information Additional Information Imperatives for 2026: What’s Ahead for Enterprise AI, HR, Jobs, And Organizations The Collapse And Rebirth Of Online Learning And Professional Development Yes, AI Is Really Impacting The Job Market. Here’s What To Do. Get Galileo: The World’s AI Agent For Everything HR and Leadership Chapters (00:00:00) - The role of HR in companies(00:01:13) - Why 2026 Will Be the Birth of a New HR Profession(00:06:32) - The Future of HR Is AI-based(00:15:05) - Quality and Accuracy in AI-powered HR

2026 Imperatives: Understanding The Biggest HR Transformation In Decades

Jan 21st, 2026 5:30 PM

This week we launch our Imperatives for 2026, and I discuss the 11 top issues you face and how HR, as we know it, is going to radically change. Our research shows that 30-40% of today’s HR roles will go away, soon to be automated by AI agents and Superagents. Read today’s news release for more details. This podcast explains the transformative impact of enterprise AI on human resources, emphasizing the redefinition of HR roles, the emergence of super agents, and the future of work. It highlights the need for organizations to adapt to these changes by focusing on employee engagement and the development of super workers, ultimately leading to enhanced productivity and organizational growth. Major Messages AI is redefining what HR does and how it operates. We are in the early stages of a technology revolution with AI. AI can analyze unstructured data, making HR more strategic. The concept of superagents will change HR technology. Many HR roles will evolve rather than disappear due to AI. Employee engagement is at a low despite advancements in health and longevity. Organizations must continuously care for and support their employees. The workforce is becoming more independent and less tied to a single employer. AI will create opportunities for super workers who leverage technology effectively. Companies must rethink talent management to retain top talent. Your Personal Transformation Each of these 11 topics represent a learning opportunity for business and HR professionals. We’ve built an entire AI-powered learning experience and Supertutor in Galileo to help. We encourage you to get Galileo to dig in and apply these topics to your job, your company, and your career. Additional Information Imperatives for 2026: What’s Ahead for Enterprise AI, HR, Jobs, And Organizations The Collapse And Rebirth Of Online Learning And Professional Development Yes, AI Is Really Impacting The Job Market. Here’s What To Do. Get Galileo: The World’s AI Agent For Everything HR and Leadership Chapters (00:00:00) - The 2026 Imperatives for Enterprise AI in Human Resources and Human(00:01:00) - The Future of AI Is Here(00:04:32) - The 'Super Agent'(00:05:41) - Will HR Jobs Go Away?(00:06:43) - The second part of the people equation(00:09:00) - The era of superworkers and super-Workers

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