A podcast community for Proptech and Real Estate leaders, investors, operators and innovators. A new era is upon us. Tangent💚Proptech unites Proptech founders💡, Real Estate investors and operators🏢, Venture Capital investors, urban leaders🏙 and passionate creators🌎 who are improving our communities and cities. Join us to learn how we can solve present day challenges with innovative technology and greater collaboration. Join VC investors Jeffrey Berman and Zach Aarons, and Proptech entre...
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The AI Company Making Residential Builders More Efficient & Housing Affordable, with Spacial AI CEO & Co-founder Maor Greenberg

Jan 14th, 2026 11:43 AM

Maor Greenberg is the co-founder and CEO of Spacial, the AI-powered engineering partner delivering coordinated, permit-ready structural, MEP, and energy plans for residential construction. With over 19 years of experience as a builder and founder, Maor previously scaled Greenberg Construction, Greenberg Design Gallery, and VRchitects, earning Inc. 5000 honors and multiple design awards. At Spacial, he combines deep field experience with cutting-edge AI to reduce permitting friction and accelerate housing delivery. His work has been featured in Forbes, TechCrunch, and CTech, and he actively invests in forward-thinking AEC and AI startups.(01:33) - Maor's Journey to the US (02:54) - Challenges in Architectural & Engineering Processes(04:05) - The Pain Points Leading to Spatial AI (05:31) - Permitting Bottlenecks in Construction (06:05) - Design & Construction Integration Issues (08:24) - AI’s Role in Streamlining Processes (09:29) - Success Stories & Milestones(15:07) - Shoutout: AmTrustRE's $217M Office Acquisition of 260 Madison(15:54) - Feature: Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026 (17:02) - Standardized Pricing & Adoption (18:55) - Speed vs. Quality in Engineering (24:53) - Modular Housing (28:25) - Future Vision for Spatial AI (29:09) - Collaboration Superpower: Elon Musk💚 Learn more:➡️ Visit Spacial AI➡️ Maor Greenberg💚 Feature:➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedInDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

This Robot Lives in Your Building's Trash Chute & Saves $200K+ Expenses, with RoboChute CEO & Co-founder Tzvika Graiver

Jan 7th, 2026 11:45 AM

Tzvika Graiver is the co-founder and CEO of RoboChute, the company reinventing how buildings manage trash chutes using smart, autonomous robots. With a background in law and a deep commitment to environmental innovation, Tzvika brings a unique blend of strategic insight and operational grit to the built world. RoboChute’s system proactively cleans, monitors, and extends the life of garbage chutes—already delivering healthier air and lower costs in buildings across Israel. Tzvika is also the longtime Chairman of KeepOlim, a nonprofit supporting new immigrants in Israel through business development and community advocacy. Whether launching robotics or empowering new communities, he’s focused on building smarter, more inclusive buildings and cities from the inside out.(01:35) The Problem with Garbage Chutes(05:46) Cost & Maintenance of Garbage Chutes(07:49) VC on hardware vs. software(12:06) Challenges & Opportunities in Robotics(21:16) Future of Real Estate & Robotics(24:02) Feature: Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass(24:51) Robots in Real Estate Operations(25:16) The Importance of Building Automation(27:06) Innovative Solutions for Waste Management(28:23) The Role of AI in Building Management(32:03) The Rise & Fall of Roomba / iRobot & Amazon's Blocked Acquisition(35:14) Competition with Chinese Manufacturers(42:22) Collaboration Superpower: Hannah Szenes (Wiki) & Lucius Tarquinius Priscus (Wiki)💚 Learn more:➡️ Visit RoboChute➡️ Tzvika Graiver on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedInDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

Unlocking Ancillary Revenue While Supporting Housing Affordability, with Airbnb Head of Marketing for Real Estate Eliza Lochner

Dec 18th, 2025 11:42 AM

Eliza Lochner is a seasoned marketing leader with experience spanning Fortune 500 companies and high-growth startups. She leads global marketing for Airbnb’s real estate development partnerships and new supply initiatives, including the Airbnb Friendly Apartments program, which helps renters earn supplemental income while giving property owners transparency, controls, and new revenue opportunities. Passionate about building human connections that fuel business growth, Eliza focuses on partnerships at the intersection of housing affordability, flexibility, and real estate innovation.(01:30) - Airbnb-friendly Apartments (02:55) - Addressing Housing Affordability(04:34) - Owner & Property Manager Controls(06:28) - Program Success & Expansion(09:25) - Impact on Resident & Investor Attraction(14:24) - Revenue Sharing & Incentives(18:56) - Building Trust with Property Managers(21:14) - Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass(22:05) - Channel Partners & Distribution Strategy(24:00) - Boutique Hotels Partnerships(25:45) - Major Events: World Cup and Olympics(29:43) - Future of Airbnb Friendly Buildings Program(31:26) - Collaboration Superpower: Michelle Obama & Eumaeus (Wiki)💚 Learn more:➡️ Airbnb-friendly Apartments program➡️ Eliza Lochner on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedInDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

From Chipotle to Soho: RTL’s Ken Hochhauser on Data, Signals, & Why Retail Is Back

Dec 3rd, 2025 11:40 AM

Kenneth Hochhauser is Partner and Head of Data and Analytics at RTL. His background includes roles as a retail executive at Macy’s and GNC and as a small business and economic development officer for the City of New York. He has advised both tenants and landlords on site selection, trade area analysis, and retail strategy, including introducing Chipotle to the New York metro market and representing Duxiana nationally. His past assignments span major projects such as Brookfield Place, Trump Place, and Columbia University’s Manhattanville and Morningside campuses.(02:39) - Ken's Journey(04:59) - Retail Market Trends(06:05) - Retail vs. Office Innovation(07:53) - Shopping Trends and Retail Insights(08:31) - Retail Challenges in Manhattan(10:05) - Retail's Historical Context and Future(12:14) - Tenant Preferences(17:33) - Experiential Retail & Unique Locations(20:56) - Non-Traditional Retail (23:21) - Feature: Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass(28:11) - Retail Tech & Data Utilization(34:29) - Location Indicators & Retail Expansion(38:29) - Collaboration Superpower: an economist(40:08) - US Gov. Shutdown Impact💚 Learn more:➡️ Visit RTL➡️ Ken Hochhauser on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedInDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

The Future of Real Estate Data Management, with Cherre's Global Head of Alliances & CorpDev. Kevin Shtofman

Nov 25th, 2025 10:26 AM

Kevin Shtofman is the Global Head of Alliances and Corporate Development at Cherre, a real estate data platform powering over $3.3 trillion in AUM. With 20+ years of experience across real estate, finance, and consulting, Kevin leads global initiatives to integrate and contextualize data from systems, third parties, and JV partners, helping investors, operators, and asset managers make smarter decisions. At Cherre, he also oversees strategic partnerships, global expansion, and the innovation roadmap. Prior to joining Cherre, Kevin held leadership roles across the industry, including Chief Operating Officer at NavigatorCRE, and Global Real Estate Technology Strategy Lead at Deloitte, where he advised clients on emerging technologies like AI, automation, and blockchain. A recognized voice in real estate innovation, Kevin brings two decades of experience bridging data, operations, and technology across global real estate markets. Outside of work, Kevin is a golf enthusiast, occasional Ironman, and proud father of three daughters.(02:05) - Kevin's Background(05:19) - Challenges in Real Estate Data Management(06:52) - Cherre’s Approach to Data Integration(13:48) - Evolution of Cherre’s Platform(21:41) - Client Success Stories(24:58) - Future of Real Estate and AI(25:23) - Feature: Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass(29:58) - Introducing Cherre AI Agent Marketplace(33:58) - AI Use Cases(40:06) - The Future of Real Estate Data(42:29) - Affordable Housing and Investment(47:37) - Collaboration Superpower: William Levitt (Wiki) & Larry Brown (Wiki)💚 Learn more:➡️ Visit Cherre➡️ Kevin Shtofman on LinkedIn💚 Feature:➡️ Blueprint - The Future of Real Estate - Register for 2026: The Premier Event for Industry Executives, Real Estate & Construction Tech Startups and VC's, at The Venetian, Las Vegas on September 22nd-24th, 2026. As a friend of Tangent, you can save $300 on your All-Access pass💚 Connect with Tangent:➡️ Edward Cohen on LinkedIn➡️ Jeff Berman on LinkedIn➡️ Zach Aarons on LinkedIn➡️ Tangent on LinkedInDisclaimer: Tangent podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only, you should not construe any such information or other material as legal, tax, investment, financial, or other advise. Nothing contained on our program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Tangent, Camber Creek, MetaProp, or any third party guest to buy or sell any securities, public or private, other financial instruments or funds.

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