Zionophobia - with Judea Pearl
Please take 5 minutes to fill out Ark Media’s LISTENER SURVEY ____ Do most people misunderstand the true nature of Antizionism? Dan sits down with renowned computer scientist and public intellectual Judea Pearl to understand why he coined the term “Zionophobia.” Pearl argues that Antizionism is not simply policy criticism but a rejection of Jewish collective sovereignty. Pearl shares his personal story, that dates back to the founding of Israel, and explains how the murder of his son, Daniel Pearl, and the violence of the Second Intifada have reshaped his thinking about Israel, identity, and moral clarity. The conversation spans failed peace efforts, the politics of language, the meaning of indigeneity, and Pearl’s warning that Israel’s greatest long-term vulnerability may be the erosion of bipartisan American support. Read Judea’s book Coexistence and Other Fighting Words In this episode: 03:00 - From AI pioneer to Zionist advocate 24:00 - “Zionophobia,” not anti-Semitism 29:00 - Terrorism, moral asymmetry, and the Carter controversy 35:00 - Education as the true battlefield 38:00 - Why peace efforts failed and what was misunderstood 41:00 - Indigeneity, sovereignty, and competing narratives 44:00 - The bipartisan question and Israel’s strategic future More Ark Media: Subscribe to Inside Call me Back Explore Israel Votes Listen to For Heaven's Sake Listen to What’s Your Number? Watch Call me Back on YouTube Newsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav Eyal Instagram | Ark Media | Dan X | Dan Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel Get in touch Credits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo
Saudi & UAE: The Cold Gulf War - with Yonatan Adiri and Yael Wissner-Levy
Please take 5 minutes to fill out Ark Media’s LISTENER SURVEY____Subscribe to What’s Your Number?____For years, normalization between Saudi Arabia and Israel was seen as the ultimate goal of the Abraham Accords and the final step towards unlocking regional stability. But a sharp rivalry is heating up between Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and UAE President Mohammed bin Zayed. Dan is joined by Yonatan Adiri and Yael Wissner-Levy to unpack the economic, political, and personal dynamics driving this feud, what it means for Israel, and why India and global energy corridors may matter more than most people realize.In this episode:00:18 - MBS’s Vision 2030 under pressure and the internal Saudi recalibration10:40 - Mentor turned rival: How MBS and MBZ went from alignment to confrontation18:45 - The Yemen flashpoint that ruptured the Saudi–UAE relationship24:00 - Energy corridors, IMEC, and the India factor28:30 - Is Israel collateral damage or strategically positioned?34:50 - Why UAE’s “infrastructure diplomacy” may be winning quietly38:45 - The future of normalization versus regional integrationThis episode was sponsored by United Hatzalah. Donate today at IsraelRescue.org/CallMeBack. Add this number to your phone right now if you live in Israel – 1221, and for those visiting it’s 972-2-5-383838.More Ark Media:Subscribe to Inside Call me BackExplore Israel VotesListen to For Heaven's SakeWatch Call me Back on YouTubeNewsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav EyalInstagram | Ark Media | DanX | DanDan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of IsraelGet in touchCredits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo
ADL's Jonathan Greenblatt responds to Bret Stephens (INSIDE Call me Back sneak peek)
This is a sneak peek from the latest Inside Call me Back, the members-only edition of the podcast. Following Bret Stephens’ controversial “State of the World Jewry” speech, Jonathan Greenblatt, CEO of the Anti-Defamation League, joins Dan to respond directly.Is the Jewish community overinvested in fighting antisemitism? Did institutions miss the warning signs before October 7? And can Jewish identity flourish without first ensuring Jewish security?To hear the full conversation, become a member by following the link in the description or visiting arkmedia.org.In the full episode: Jonathan Greenblatt, CEO of Anti-Defamation League, joins Dan to respond to Brett Stephens’ controversial “State of the World Jewry” speech, which argued that too many Jewish resources are invested in fighting Antisemitism, rather than building a Jewish life. Jonathan, whom Bret called out by name, tells Dan that the two mustn’t be seen as mutually exclusive. The two also discuss whether Jewish institutions should do some soul searching after being blindsided by Oct. 8, whether the Blue Square Alliance Superbowl ad missed the mark, and what the data’s showing about anti-Jewish trends in America.Read Jonathan’s op-ed, American Jews need both security and identityRegister for the Never is Now Summit and use discount code “Senor20”Watch the Call Me Back episode from the 2025 Never is Now SummitWatch Jonathan’s previous appearance on Call Me BackMore Ark Media:Subscribe to Inside Call me BackListen to For Heaven's SakeListen to What’s Your Number?Watch Call me Back on YouTubeNewsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav EyalInstagram | Ark Media | DanX | DanDan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of IsraelGet in touchCredits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo
Trump meets Netanyahu, but what’s the endgame? - with Nadav Eyal
Please take 5 minutes to fill out Ark Media’s LISTENER SURVEY___________________________________Prime Minister Netanyahu’s meeting with President Trump ended without any clear declaration about simmering tensions with Iran, so Ark Media contributor Nadav Eyal joins Dan to try to read between the lines. What did Netanyahu hope to achieve? Does anyone know Trump’s plan? Is an attack on Iran still on the table and did Netanyahu move the needle? Could the talks with Iran be just a head fake?In this episode:- What Netanyahu asked for in Washington- Why Israeli officials think the Iran talks may be “dead on arrival”- U.S. military buildup and strike contingencies- Why Trump’s Iran policy is not about Israel — and never has been- The China factor: oil, energy, and Cold War II- Will Israel participate in a strike?- The Board of Peace and a potential Marshall Plan for Gaza- Why Hamas will only disarm under credible threatMore Ark Media:Subscribe to Inside Call me BackExplore Israel VotesListen to For Heaven's SakeListen to What’s Your Number?Watch Call me Back on YouTubeNewsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav EyalInstagram | Ark Media | DanX | DanDan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of IsraelGet in touchCredits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo
ISRAEL VOTES: The Political Landscape - with Nadav Eyal and Amit Segal
Please spend 5 minutes to fill out Ark Media’s LISTENER SURVEY___________________________________What will Israelis really be voting on in the first election since October 7?Today we are launching Israel Votes, a new Call me Back and Ark Media series that will be your hub for unpacking the Israeli election. Ark Media contributors Amit Segal and Nadav Eyal join Dan to set the stage, exploring how October 7, the war, coalition politics, deep social divides, and the Netanyahu brand will all play a role in the upcoming vote, which many Israelis feel may determine the character and future of the Jewish state.In this episode:06:45 - Why this election feels different from every Israeli election before it08:55 - Netanyahu’s coalition problem and the ultra-Orthodox question11:55 - How October 7 changed the political map and voter psychology16:40 - Is this election a referendum on the past or a vote about the future?21:00 - What Israel’s demographic and political trends mean for the outcome26:45 - The opposition’s strategy and the Bennett factorMore Ark Media:Subscribe to Inside Call me BackExplore Israel VotesListen to For Heaven's SakeListen to What’s Your Number?Watch Call me Back on YouTubeNewsletters | Ark Media | Amit Segal | Nadav EyalInstagram | Ark Media | DanX | DanDan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of IsraelGet in touchCredits: Ilan Benatar, Adaam James Levin-Areddy, Brittany Cohen, Ava Weiner, Martin Huergo, Mariangeles Burgos, and Patricio Spadavecchia, Yuval Semo