The Big Four Oh: The Podcast About Turning 40

Turning 40 and realizing burnout was the warning, not the problem

Burnout rarely announces itself. It shows up as brain fog, chronic stress, unexplained health issues, and a sense that you are doing everything right but still falling apart. Michelle Niemeyer spent years powering through a high-pressure career, a difficult marriage, and nonstop responsibility before her body forced a reckoning. This conversation explores how achievement can become a coping mechanism, how chronic inflammation becomes “normal,” and why real healing often requires changing how you relate to work, time, and control. Michelle’s story offers a helpful reframe of midlife burnout: not as collapse, but as an opportunity to build a life that finally fits.Guest Bio Michelle Niemeyer is a speaker, coach and former attorney who teaches professionals how to bend time so they can stay sharp, productive and profitable – without burning out. After finding her way to burnout and back in her own high-performing legal career, Michelle created The Art of Bending Time, a framework that helps people connect the dots across work, life, and purpose to magnetize success and reclaim their joy. She helps businesses retain top talent, boost development, and keep their people energized and engaged – all while making the magic happen.Turning 40 and realizing burnout was the warning, not the problemFrom the outside, Michelle Niemeyer looked like the picture of success. She was a high-achieving attorney, deeply involved in her community, and constantly in motion. Underneath that polished exterior, she was exhausted, chronically stressed, and living in a body that was fighting itself. In her mid-30s and early 40s, Michelle’s drive to achieve, her hyper-independence, and years of pushing through discomfort collided with burnout and a serious autoimmune diagnosis. What followed was not just a health reckoning, but a complete transformation in how she relates to work, relationships, time, and herself.Episode Highlights:How Michelle’s childhood conditioning around achievement and responsibility shaped her relentless work ethic.What it looks like when burnout shows up as brain fog, detachment, and physical symptoms long before we recognize it as burnout.The moment her body forced her to pay attention, and how an autoimmune diagnosis changed everything.How lifestyle changes, stress reduction, and radical self-awareness helped Michelle reverse disease progression.The surprising emotional and personality shift that came with learning to slow down and ask for help.Why burnout is often less about time management and more about alignment.Michelle’s story is a reminder that midlife transitions often arrive disguised as health crises, exhaustion, or emotional unraveling. For her, healing was not just about diet or medication, it was about dismantling a lifetime of hyper-independence, redefining success, and reconnecting with what actually brings energy and joy. Her transformation highlights a truth many listeners will recognize: when you stop living in constant survival mode, your body and your life respond in ways that can feel almost miraculous.If you enjoyed this episode, please rate, follow, and share The Big Four Oh Podcast. It helps more people find these stories and reminds others in the middle of their own transition that they are not alone.Guest ResourcesMichelle’s Website Connect with Michelle on LinkedIn Connect with Michelle on Facebook Connect with Michelle on InstagramMichelle’s Offer for TBFO Listeners! Free Community with Clarity Exercise and SWORD FormDo you have the Midlife Ick? Download Stephanie’s guide to the Ick to diagnose whether you or someone you love is suffering from this insidious midlife malaise. www.thebigfouroh.com/ick ConnectTheBigFourOh.comTBFO on InstagramTBFO on FacebookGet the Email DigestListen, Rate & SubscribeYouTube PodcastsApple Podcasts SpotifyAmazon PodcastsSponsorThe Big Four Oh Podcast is produced and presented by Savoir Faire Marketing/Communications

Turning 40 and becoming “uncorked”

What happens when a life that looks “fine” stops feeling true? Mikelann Valterra discusses the strange freedom that can follow loss. From rebuilding financially at age 40 to learning how to trust intuition, design a life on her own terms, and say no to other people’s expectations, Mikelann shares what it looks like to move from survival into possibility. This conversation is for anyone in midlife who feels untethered, restless, or quietly hungry for something more, even if they cannot yet name it.Guest Bio Mikelann Valterra is an author, speaker, financial therapist, and master money coach who helps women around the world rise above the money fog, transform their relationship with money, and design their ideal life. For twenty-five years, Mikelann Valterra, MA, AFC has been a thought leader in financial psychology. She has written, spoken, and been interviewed extensively on powerful, practical ways to reduce money anxiety and teaches effective methods for earning, saving, reducing debt, and managing money. Her new book, Rise Above the Money Fog is now available online. When she’s not working with clients, you can find Mikelann on the dance floor, indulging her love of Argentine Tango.Turning 40 and becoming “uncorked”Mikelann Valterra’s transformation began just before her 40th birthday, with a divorce that ended a “good on paper” marriage, the loss of nearly all her financial stability, and a year spent rebuilding from zero while living in her childhood bedroom. What followed was not a collapse, but an “uncorking,” a period of deep self-reflection, creative awakening, and intentional redesign of her life, her finances, and her sense of self.Episode HighlightsHow a career that looked unconventional on paper led Mikelann to pioneer money coaching before it was widely knownWhy “losing everything” after divorce felt terrifying and oddly freeing at the same timeThe messy middle between ending a marriage and starting over financially at age 40How journaling, therapy, and deep self-reflection helped her rebuild from the ground upThe shift from living by external “shoulds” to designing a life that actually fitWhy knowing yourself is the foundation of both financial peace and personal fulfillmentHow synchronicity, intuition, and curiosity led Mikelann to Argentine tango, and how dance became part of her second adulthoodMidlife transitions are rarely neat or linear, but they can be profoundly liberating. Through honesty, humor, and hard-earned wisdom, Mikelann illustrates how rebuilding after loss can open the door to creativity, clarity, and trusting yourself. Her story reframes starting over not as failure, but as an invitation to design a life that aligns with who you truly are, not who you were told to be.If you enjoyed this episode, please take a moment to rate, follow, and share The Big Four Oh Podcast. It helps more people find these stories and reminds listeners that they are not alone in the messy middle.Guest ResourcesTake the Money Personality Quiz (In the top bar!)Connect with Mikelann on FacebookConnect with Mikelann on IGConnect with Mikelann on TikTokConnect with Mikelann on Pinterest Mikelann’s websiteConnectTheBigFourOh.comTBFO on InstagramTBFO on FacebookGet the Email DigestListen, Rate & SubscribeYouTube PodcastsApple Podcasts SpotifyAmazon PodcastsSponsorThe Big Four Oh Podcast is produced and presented by Savoir Faire Marketing/Communications

Turning 40 and realizing success is not the same as alignment

Andrea McGinty built what many people would call the ultimate success story: a booming global business, a high-profile marriage, and great kids. So why did midlife still ask her to stop and reconsider everything? Andrea talks about what it feels like when the life you built no longer matches the person you have become. We talk about intuition, values, second acts, and why clarity often arrives slowly, quietly, and from the inside out. If you have ever wondered whether it is possible to change course without burning everything down, this conversation will resonate deeply.Guest Bio Andrea McGinty’s journey is as compelling as the love stories she’s helped create. After being dumped at the altar in her 20s, founding It’s Just Lunch Matchmaking in 1990 (before Google and online dating), and later navigating divorce after 24 years of marriage, Andrea took a four-year pause from dating to focus on raising her teenage daughter. When she decided to jump back into the dating world, she approached it strategically, and it paid off—her sixth first date turned into her husband, whom she married in Rome in 2024.As the founder of It’s Just Lunch in the 1990s, Andrea revolutionized the matchmaking industry. Her innovative service grew to over 110 locations worldwide and facilitated over 33,000 setups, resulting in more than 10,000 marriages. Today, her company, 33,000 Dates, focuses on helping the over-45 crowd find love in the second act of their lives. Currently, 65% of her clients are in long-term relationships, a testament to her expertise and unique methods.Often referred to as the OG or “Godmother” of modern dating, Andrea’s impact extends beyond her clients. Like an NFL coaching tree, more than 40% of today’s top 25 matchmakers trace their roots back to Andrea’s mentorship and pioneering techniques. Her influence has shaped the industry, creating a legacy that stands out in the world of matchmaking.Andrea’s work has garnered extensive media attention. She has been featured on Oprah, People, Today Show, and named Entrepreneur of the Month on the Early Show. As a sought-after speaker, she has addressed audiences at the American Marketing Association and other prestigious events. Her insights and passion have made her a trusted voice in the realm of love and relationships.With over three decades of experience, Andrea doesn’t just write about dating; she’s lived it. Her latest book, 2nd Acts: Winning Strategies for Dating Over 50, combines personal anecdotes and professional expertise to guide singles on finding meaningful connections later in life. Andrea’s vibrant, no-nonsense approach continues to inspire and empower those ready to embrace their second act with optimism and love.Turning 40 and realizing success is not the same as alignmentAndrea McGinty built one of the most successful dating companies in the world before most of us had email, Google, or any idea what online dating might become. But by midlife, the business she had poured herself into, along with the marriage built alongside it, no longer fit who she was becoming. Andrea shares what it was like to grow up as the oldest daughter in a big Irish Catholic family; launch It’s Just Lunch with $3,000 and a dream;, navigate public success alongside private fear; and ultimately listen to the quiet inner voice that told her it was time for something different. Her midlife transition includes selling a global company, divorcing amicably, facing cancer, and stepping fully into a second act built around values, alignment, and deeply personal fulfillment.Episode HighlightsGrowing up as the oldest child in a large Irish Catholic family and how responsibility and resilience shaped Andrea early onLaunching It’s Just Lunch before online dating existed, and how sheer scrappiness, intuition, and grit fueled its successThe emotional reality of early entrepreneurship: outward confidence paired with constant private fearWhat happens when success scales beyond recognition, and the work you love turns into meetings you dreadHow selling a wildly successful company coincided with a deeper reassessment of marriage, values, and family lifeThe slow, internal process of deciding to divorce, and why midlife clarity often arrives quietly, not dramaticallyAndrea’s story is a great reminder that midlife change is not always sparked by crisis or collapse. Sometimes it comes from clarity. As external pressures fall away, what matters most rises to the surface. This episode explores how success can evolve into misalignment, how values become louder in our forties, and how honoring that inner voice can open the door to a more honest, grounded, and fulfilling second adulthood.If you enjoyed this episode, please take a moment to rate, follow, and share The Big Four Oh Podcast. Your support helps more people realize they are not alone in this transition.Guest ResourcesConnect with Andrea on Instagram33,000 DatesDo you have the Midlife Ick?Download Stephanie’s guide to the Ick to diagnose whether you or someone you love is suffering from this insidious midlife malaise. www.thebigfouroh.com/ick ConnectTheBigFourOh.comTBFO on InstagramTBFO on FacebookGet the Email DigestListen, Rate & SubscribeYouTube PodcastsApple Podcasts SpotifyAmazon PodcastsSponsorThe Big Four Oh Podcast is produced and presented by Savoir Faire Marketing/Communications

Reflections: What If You Are Not Falling Apart?

Stephanie digs into the deeper meaning behind that restless, unsettled feeling so many people experience in their thirties and forties. Instead of considering midlife a crisis, she reframes it as a natural emotional upgrade, the moment when your inner world starts demanding a better fit with the life you built. Drawing on insights from her conversation with Dr. Deborah Heiser, Stephanie explores how curiosity, subtraction, and a simple what if question can turn confusion into clarity. If you are sensing a shift, feeling misaligned, or wondering what comes next, this episode will help you understand what is happening and why you are more ready for change than you think.ConnectTheBigFourOh.comTBFO on InstagramTBFO on FacebookGet the Email DigestListen, Rate & SubscribeYouTube PodcastsApple Podcasts SpotifyAmazon PodcastsSponsorThe Big Four Oh Podcast is produced and presented by Savoir Faire Marketing/Communications

Turning 40 and asking ‘what if’

What if midlife isn’t a crisis at all, but an upgrade you never knew you were getting? In this episode, Stephanie sits down with Dr. Deborah Heiser, a psychologist and midlife specialist who believes our forties mark the moment we finally step into our deepest emotional power. Together, they cover why so many people feel unsettled during this season of life; how to tell when you’ve outgrown the path you’re on; and the surprising science that shows our emotional well-being only gets better with age. If you’re standing at the edge of change and wondering what comes next, this conversation will give you language, perspective, and permission to imagine something more.Guest Bio Dr. Deborah Heiser is an applied developmental psychologist, the CEO/Founder of The Mentor Project, and author of The Mentorship Edge. She is a TEDx speaker, member of Marshall Goldsmith 100 Coaches, Thinkers 50 Radar List, expert contributor to Psychology Today and is also an Adjunct Professor.Turning 40 and asking ‘what if’What happens when a lifelong researcher stops studying everything no one wants to have and instead turns her attention toward what we get to look forward to as we age? For Dr. Deborah Heiser, the answer was a midlife awakening that liberated her from expectations, perfectionism, and the need for a safety net. In her early forties, she left a secure and prestigious research career to build a new life rooted in purpose, fulfillment, and the belief that emotional growth continues long after our bodies start to creak. She discovered that midlife isn’t a crisis, it’s a transition, and it is rich with potential if we’re willing to ask one simple question: what if?In this warm and energizing conversation, Deborah and Stephanie explore the emotional arc of adulthood, the surprising freedom that comes with experience, and why midlife may be the happiest, most meaningful chapter yet.Episode HighlightsHow Deborah walked away from a secure research career at 40 to pursue meaning, joy, and a new definition of success.The surprising freedom that comes from realizing the “tightrope” of big life changes is actually close to the ground.The shift from relying on external authority to trusting your own experience and expertise.Why the emotional trajectory of life goes up even as the physical one goes down.Midlife transitions vs. midlife crisis: how changing the language opens new possibilities.How cultural norms have shifted since the 1970s, and what Millennials bring to the midlife conversation.The power of asking “What if?” to reveal possibilities, uncover desires, and subtract what no longer serves you.Why fulfillment becomes non-negotiable in your forties, and how to follow the internal cues that point you toward it.This conversation takes an insightful deep dive into the emotional transition of midlife, guided by someone who has both studied it and lived it. Stephanie and Deborah unpack why our forties often spark a shift toward fulfillment, autonomy, and self-trust, and how curiosity, not crisis, is the real engine behind change. Through stories, science, and a few well-placed laughs, they reframe midlife as an exciting developmental stage where we get to rethink our choices, reclaim our authority, and create lives that feel good from the inside out.If you enjoyed this episode, please rate, follow, and share The Big Four Oh so more people can discover what this transition is really all about.Guest ResourcesDeborah’s book: The Mentorship Edge: Creating Maximum Impact Through Lateral and Hierarchical MentoringDeborah’s Psychology Today Blog about Turning 40Article: The Midlife “What if?”Connect with Deborah on InstagramConnect with Deborah on TikTok Do you have the Midlife Ick? Download Stephanie’s guide to the Ick to diagnose whether you or someone you love is suffering from this insidious midlife malaise. www.thebigfouroh.com/ick ConnectTheBigFourOh.comTBFO on InstagramTBFO on FacebookGet the Email DigestListen, Rate & SubscribeYouTube PodcastsApple Podcasts SpotifyAmazon PodcastsSponsorThe Big Four Oh Podcast is produced and presented by Savoir Faire Marketing/Communications