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5.19 David Schrock, Trent Hunter, & Stephen Wellum • Interview • “Seeking a Convention That Is Not Southern Baptist In Name Only: How to Regain Trust, Rebuild the Trustee System . . . "

ABOUT THE EPISODEListen in as Trent Hunter and Stephen Wellum interview David Schrock on his COA Longform Essay, "Seeking a Convention That Is Not Southern Baptist In Name Only: How to Regain Trust, Rebuild the Trustee System, and Avoid an Impending Exodus of Vocal Conservatives"Timestamps00:45 – Intro02:15 – Each COA Member’s SBC Biography08:08 – Why Is COA Doing this Month?12:50 – What 2 or 3 Articles From This Month are Recommended?15:22 – Recognizing Leaders Whose Humility Regains Trust20:50 – Applying Theology to the SBC Issues25:46 – Recruiting Trustees Who Will Hold Entities Accountable28:34 – The Baptist Courier Ad29:50 – Accountability for Trustees34:08 – Trustee Selection36:00 – Reorganizing the Convention to Magnify Trust44:14 – What Should SBC Messengers Be Looking For Between Now and Orlando?51:32 – Walking in a Spirit of Cooperation/OutroResources to Click“Seeking a Convention That Is Not Southern Baptist In Name Only: How to Regain Trust, Rebuild the Trustee System, and Avoid an Impending Exodus of Vocal Conservatives” – David Schrock“Southern Baptists warm to alternate moniker ‘Great Commission Baptists’” – Adelle M. Banks“Under Reconstruction: How the Egalitarian Beachball Wrecks the Household of God” – Christ Over All“Creeds, Confessions, and Cooperation: The Basis of Our Unity” – Christ Over All“The Ethics & Religious Liberty Conundrum” – Christ Over All“More Money Than Men: The NAMB Church Planting Problem” – Michael Clary“Whoever Holds the Purse Holds the Strings: The Financial Plan that Could End the SBC” – Rhett Burns“What’s Trusty About SBC Trustees: Does Trustee Training Fix Ailing Entities or Institutionalize Passivity?” – Jon Whitehead“Why Baptists Must Recover the Order of Love” – Alex Kocman“One Sacred Effeminacy: The Cooperative Longhouse And the Great Feminization of the SBC” – Doug Ponder“14 Clint Pressley, David Schrock, and Stephen Wellum: ‘The SBC: A Presidential Perspective with Clint Pressley’” – Christ Over All“16 Josh Powell, David Schrock, and Stephen Wellum: ‘Getting to Know SBC Presidential Candidate Josh Powell’” – Christ Over All“17 Willy Rice, David Schrock, and Stephen Wellum: ‘Getting to Know SBC Presidential Candidate Willy Rice’” – Christ Over All“What Is the Cause of Our Divisions? Social Media and Other Strategies for Effecting Positive Change in the SBC” – David Schrock“The Attempt to Clarify Resolution 9” – Tom Ascol“Stewardship of Our SBC Land” – Mark Coppenger“‘Too Busy with Woke Stuff’: The All Too (In)Visible and Inconsequential ERLC” – Megan Basham“New Boss, Same as the Old Boss: Michels’ Iron Law of Oligarchy and the SBC” – Joshua AbbotoyBy What Standard? God’s World, God’s Rules – Founders MinistriesHow the SBC Got Played – Crosspolitic StudiosX post by Cuatro Nelson (@cuatronelson), “On Sunday, we officially voted to leave the Southern Baptist Convention…,” September 18, 2025“We Don’t Like Theology, Do We? Three Reflections from the 2021 Southern Baptist Convention” – David Schrock“The SBC Isn’t Drifting—It’s Being Steered: A Sober-Minded Response to Emotional Sabotage” – Michael Carlino“Greear Announces Most Diverse Ever Committee on Committees” – Brent Hobbs“The Great Commission Resurgence Debate” – Trevin WaxTheme of the Month: Can the Center Hold? The Southern Baptist Convention in the 21st CenturyGive to Support the WorkBooks to ReadFault Lines: The Social Justice Movement and Evangelicalism’s Looming Catastrophe – Voddie Baucham Jr.Shepherds for Sale: How Evangelical Leaders Traded the Truth for a Leftist Agenda– Megan BashamThe Fractured Republic: Renewing America’s Social Contract in an Age of Individualism – Yuval Levin

5.18 David Schrock • Reading • “Seeking a Convention That Is Not Southern Baptist In Name Only: How to Regain Trust, Rebuild the Trustee System, and Avoid an Impending Exodus of Vocal Conservatives”

ABOUT THE EPISODEMany aspects of the SBC are broken, and this article charts a possible route forward into a dawn marked by humble leaders, diligent trustees, and a reorganization.Resources to Click“Seeking a Convention That Is Not Southern Baptist In Name Only: How to Regain Trust, Rebuild the Trustee System, and Avoid an Impending Exodus of Vocal Conservatives” – David Schrock“Southern Baptists warm to alternate moniker ‘Great Commission Baptists’” – Adelle M. Banks“Under Reconstruction: How the Egalitarian Beachball Wrecks the Household of God” – Christ Over All“Creeds, Confessions, and Cooperation: The Basis of Our Unity” – Christ Over All“The Ethics & Religious Liberty Conundrum” – Christ Over All“More Money Than Men: The NAMB Church Planting Problem” – Michael Clary“Whoever Holds the Purse Holds the Strings: The Financial Plan that Could End the SBC” – Rhett Burns“What’s Trusty About SBC Trustees: Does Trustee Training Fix Ailing Entities or Institutionalize Passivity?” – Jon Whitehead“Why Baptists Must Recover the Order of Love” – Alex Kocman“One Sacred Effeminacy: The Cooperative Longhouse And the Great Feminization of the SBC” – Doug Ponder“14 Clint Pressley, David Schrock, and Stephen Wellum: ‘The SBC: A Presidential Perspective with Clint Pressley’” – Christ Over All“16 Josh Powell, David Schrock, and Stephen Wellum: ‘Getting to Know SBC Presidential Candidate Josh Powell’” – Christ Over All“17 Willy Rice, David Schrock, and Stephen Wellum: ‘Getting to Know SBC Presidential Candidate Willy Rice’” – Christ Over All“What Is the Cause of Our Divisions? Social Media and Other Strategies for Effecting Positive Change in the SBC” – David Schrock“The Attempt to Clarify Resolution 9” – Tom Ascol“Stewardship of Our SBC Land” – Mark Coppenger“‘Too Busy with Woke Stuff’: The All Too (In)Visible and Inconsequential ERLC” – Megan Basham“New Boss, Same as the Old Boss: Michels’ Iron Law of Oligarchy and the SBC” – Joshua AbbotoyBy What Standard? God’s World, God’s Rules – Founders MinistriesHow the SBC Got Played – Crosspolitic StudiosX post by Cuatro Nelson (@cuatronelson), “On Sunday, we officially voted to leave the Southern Baptist Convention…,” September 18, 2025“We Don’t Like Theology, Do We? Three Reflections from the 2021 Southern Baptist Convention” – David Schrock“The SBC Isn’t Drifting—It’s Being Steered: A Sober-Minded Response to Emotional Sabotage” – Michael Carlino“Greear Announces Most Diverse Ever Committee on Committees” – Brent Hobbs“The Great Commission Resurgence Debate” – Trevin WaxTheme of the Month: Can the Center Hold? The Southern Baptist Convention in the 21st CenturyGive to Support the Work Books to ReadFault Lines: The Social Justice Movement and Evangelicalism’s Looming Catastrophe – Voddie Baucham Jr.Shepherds for Sale: How Evangelical Leaders Traded the Truth for a Leftist Agenda– Megan BashamThe Fractured Republic: Renewing America’s Social Contract in an Age of Individualism – Yuval Levin

5.17 Willy Rice, David Schrock, & Stephen Wellum • Interview • "Getting to Know SBC Presidential Candidate Willy Rice"

ABOUT THE EPISODEListen in as David Schrock and Stephen Wellum interview SBC Presidential Candidate Willy Rice.Timestamps00:51 – Intro05:08 – Why Willy Rice Has Sought the Presidency of the SBC06:57 – What Changed Willy Rice’s Perspective10:07 – Insiders and Outsiders14:30 – The Breakdown and Regaining of Trust18:46 – Where are the Places for Communication?21:51 – What Can the Trustees Be Doing to Help?25:08 – Willy Rice’s Assessment of the Trustees29:04 – The Baptist Courier30:22 – Being Transparent35:12 – The State of DEI and Resolution 9 in the SBC43:46 – What Place Does the ERLC Have in the SBC?46:23 – What Kind of Leaders Do We Need in the SBC?49:22 – What’s the Receptivity to Willy’s Message53:23 – Seven Pillars for Baptist Renewal56:36 – Outro Resources to ClickTheme of the Month: Can the Center Hold? The Southern Baptist Convention in the 21st CenturyGive to Support the Work

5.16 Josh Powell, David Schrock, & Stephen Wellum • Interview • "Getting to Know SBC Presidential Candidate Josh Powell"

ABOUT THE EPISODEListen in as David Schrock and Stephen Wellum interview SBC Presidential Candidate Josh Powell.Timestamps00:46 – Intro06:07 – Why Josh Powell Wants to Be SBC President13:52 – What are Some of the Biggest Things the SBC Has?16:17 – Concrete Ways of Moving Forward without a Credentials Committee22:07 – The Issue of Loss of Trust and How to Regain It26:47 – What Kind of Influence Does Josh Powell Have to Make the SBC Stronger?30:30 – The Baptist Courier31:50 – Navigating the Question of Wokeness39:26 – Confessing Where We Were Wrong43:00 – What Lessons Can We Learn from The Sex Abuse Task Force48:44 – Is There a Way for Leaders to Say They Were Wrong on This?52:15 – What Kind of Leaders Would Best Serve the SBC?56:07 – The ERLC: It’s Ideal Mission, Identity, and Leadership59:39 – Where You Can Learn More about Josh Powell1:01:08 – OutroResources to ClickTheme of the Month: Can the Center Hold? The Southern Baptist Convention in the 21st CenturyGive to Support the WorkBooks to ReadThe Unprotected Class: How Anti-White Racism is Tearing America Apart – Jeremy Carl

5.15 David Schrock, Brad Green, & Mark Coppenger • Interview • "Five Reasons to be Thankful for the Southern Baptist Convention" & "Stewardship of Our SBC Land"

ABOUT THE EPISODEListen in as David Schrock interviews both Mark Coppenger and Brad Green on their COA Essays.Timestamps00:24 – Intro06:20 – What are Some Things that are Encouraging about the SBC?09:32 – Concerns about the SBC13:07 – Four Different Way to Treat the Environment19:54 – Coming Away from the Sex Abuse Crisis23:56 – Believe All Women? Intersectionality at Play28:24 – Have We Gotten Past Resolution 9?32:20 – The Baptist Courier33:53 – What Kind of Leaders Do We Need Going Forward?40:30 – SBC Ingratiationism43:40 – Is the Female Pastor Problem Because of Leaders Who are Unwilling to be Disaggreeable?49:00 – How Do We Faithfully Grow?53:11 – There is Still a Drift in the SBC54:50 – SBC Presbyterianism: A ‘Hierarchy’ Within the SBC1:04:25 – Final Thoughts: What Leaders Do We Need Today?1:06:38 – Outro Resources to Click“Five Reasons to Be Thankful for the Southern Baptist Convention” – Brad Green“Stewardship of Our SBC Land” – Mark Coppenger“The SBC in a Crowded Theater” – Mark Coppenger“Who’s the Vandal?” – Mark Coppenger“Alabama fan Harvey Updyke, poisoner of Auburn trees, dead at 71” – Mike Rodak“Resolution 9 and the Southern Baptist Convention 2019” – Tom Ascol“The Ethics & Religious Liberty Conundrum” – Christ Over All“Freedom of Speech” – Norman RockwellTheme of the Month: Can the Center Hold? The Southern Baptist Convention in the 21st CenturyGive to Support the WorkBooks to ReadWhat is Critical Theory?: A Concise Christian Analysis – Bradley G. Green