Learn how the smartest people in the world are using AI to think, create, and relate. Each week I interview founders, filmmakers, writers, investors, and others about how they use AI tools like ChatGPT, Claude, and Midjourney in their work and in their lives. We screen-share through their historical chats and then experiment with AI live on the show. Join us to discover how AI is changing how we think about our world—and ourselves. For more essays, interviews, and experiments at the f...
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We Made a Document Editor Where Humans and AI Work Side by Side

Mar 11th, 2026 3:00 PM

Every has unveiled a new product, built by CEO Dan Shipper. It's called Proof, a free, open-source, live collaborative document editor built for humans and AI agents to work in together. Proof started as a Mac app designed to show the provenance of AI-written text—purple for AI, green for human. But when Shipper rebuilt it as a web app with real-time collaboration, something clicked. Suddenly, everyone at Every was using it for everything from planning docs, to creative writing and even daily to-do lists. The team realized they needed a lightweight space where their OpenClaw agents and humans could co-author documents and leave comments. In this special episode, Shipper is joined by Every chief operating officer Brandon Gell, Cora general manager Kieran Klaassen, and head of growth Austin Tedesco to demo Proof live and share how it's changed the way they work. Brandon walks through a loop where his Codex agent writes a plan, Dan's personal Claw R2-C2 reviews it, and the humans just steer. Austin explains how he uses Proof to write a weekly food newsletter, texting ideas to his Claw on runs and watching an outline take shape. And Kieran makes the case that Proof's power is its lightness—just a link you can hand to any agent or colleague.The conversation covers what "agent native" means in practice, why AX (agent experience) matters as much as UX (user experience), what happens when 10 agents edit one document at the same time, and why some writing is now better read by an AI than a human.If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share!Want even more?Sign up for Every to unlock our ultimate guide to prompting ChatGPT here: https://every.ck.page/ultimate-guide-to-prompting-chatgpt. It's usually only for paying subscribers, but you can get it here for free.To hear more from Dan Shipper:Subscribe to Every: https://every.to/subscribeFollow him on X: https://twitter.com/danshipperGet started building today at framer.com/dan for 30% OFF a Framer Pro annual plan.Download Grammarly for free at Grammarly.comTimestamps 00:02:00 — Introduction and the origin story of Proof00:07:24 — From Mac app to collaborative web editor00:09:00 — What makes Proof “agent native”00:14:30 — Live demo: watching an agent join and write inside a shared document00:20:51 — How Austin uses Proof for creative writing and food journalism00:24:30 — The challenge of multiple agents editing one document simultaneously00:26:48 — When AI-written docs are better read by agents than by humans00:29:30 — Brandon’s agent-to-agent collaboration loop00:37:09 — Proof as a lightweight scratchpad vs. existing tools like Notion and GitHub00:42:18 — Why Proof is open source and what that means for buildersLinks to resources mentioned in the episode:Proof Editor: https://proofeditor.aiProof GitHub repo (open source): https://github.com/EveryInc/proofEvery's compound engineering plugin: https://github.com/EveryInc/compound-engineering-plugin

Meet the Slowest Startup Incubator in the World—Pumping Out Billion-dollar Companies

Mar 4th, 2026 4:06 PM

Silicon Valley loves billion-dollar moonshots and AI darlings. Sam Gerstenzang and Dan Friedman are doing something different—they're starting medical spas and funeral homes.On this episode of AI & I, Dan Shipper sat down with Gerstenzang and Friedman, partners at Boulton and Watt, which they call the "world's slowest startup incubator." Their model: Come up with an idea, achieve five or 10 million dollars in revenue themselves, then hand it off to a CEO who can take it to the next stage. They've used this playbook to build Moxie, a Series C company that helps nurses open their own medical spas, now with 600-plus customers and a 200-person team globally. Their second company, Meadow Memorials, is a contemporary funeral home with no physical real estate. It has become the largest provider of funeral services in California.Both businesses launched right around the arrival of ChatGPT—and neither was built with AI in mind. So how are they thinking about AI inside companies where the core work isn't going to change? In this conversation, Gerstenzang and Friedman share how they built an AI agent called Matthew Bolton to power their customer discovery process, why synthetic customer calls completely failed for them, and why they believe you shouldn't give anyone credit for using AI.If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share!Want even more?Sign up for Every to unlock our ultimate guide to prompting ChatGPT here: https://every.ck.page/ultimate-guide-to-prompting-chatgpt. It's usually only for paying subscribers, but you can get it here for free.To hear more from Dan Shipper:Subscribe to Every: https://every.to/subscribeFollow him on X: https://twitter.com/danshipperIntent is what comes after your IDE. Try it yourself: augmentcode.com/intentHead to granola.ai/every to get 3 months free.Ready to build a site that looks hand-coded—without hiring a developer? Launch your site for free at www.Framer.com, and use code DAN to get your first month of Pro on the house.Timestamps00:00:00 — Introduction and how Sam and Dan's paths first crossed00:01:40 — What it means to be “the world's slowest incubator”00:04:50 — Why Bolton and Watt runs companies to several million in revenue before handing off to a CEO00:07:30 — How specialization across the founding journey creates advantages00:10:40 — Building AI-durable businesses versus AI-native ones00:16:10 — How an AI agent transformed their customer discovery process00:19:30 — Where synthetic customer calls completely fail00:29:30 — Deploying AI inside established companies00:32:30 — Why newer projects see huge gains from AI while mature companies see 10 percent00:37:00 — A preview of what's next for Bolton and Watt

Meet the Student With No Teachers, No Homework—Just AI

Feb 25th, 2026 4:00 PM

Depending on whom you ask, AI is either the best or worst thing that can happen to the next generation. The arguments come from educators, venture capitalists, op-ed writers, and anxious parents—but rarely from the young people in question. On this episode of AI & I, Dan Shipper sat down with one: Alex Mathew, a 17-year-old high-school senior at Alpha High School in Austin, Texas. Alpha School, a rapidly expanding network of kindergarten through grade 12 private schools, is not without controversy. Inside Alpha High School, there are no traditional teachers, all academic content is delivered through an AI-powered platform, and the adults in the classroom, known as “guides,” focus solely on supporting the students emotionally and keeping them motivated to learn. The students have two- to three-hour learning blocks every morning and spend the rest of the day going deep on a project in an area they care about, spanning art, sport, life skills, and entrepreneurship.Mathew’s project is a startup called Berry, built around an AI stuffed animal designed to help teenagers with their mental health. His vision is for teens to talk to the plushie for five to 10 minutes a day and, in the process, learn to recognize and cope with their problems in the right way. In this episode, Dan and Mathew talk about what a day at Alpha High looks like, what keeps students from cheating when AI is everywhere, and how Generation Z—people born between 1997–2012—really feels about college, social media, and books. If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share! Want even more?Sign up for Every to unlock our ultimate guide to prompting ChatGPT here: https://every.ck.page/ultimate-guide-to-prompting-chatgpt. It’s usually only for paying subscribers, but you can get it here for free.To hear more from Dan Shipper:Subscribe to Every: https://every.to/subscribe Follow him on X: https://twitter.com/danshipper In a world of generic AI, don’t sound like everyone else. With Grammarly, you never will. Download Grammarly for free at Grammarly.com.Intent is what comes after your IDE. Try it yourself: augmentcode.com/intentHead to granola.ai/every to get 3 months freeTimestamps: 00:00:00 – Start 00:01:30 – Introduction00:04:08 – A typical day inside Alpha High School00:06:54 – Why Alpha replaced teachers with “guides” focused on motivating students00:12:09 – Why Mathew doesn’t use AI to cheat, even though he could00:19:51 – Do ambitious teenagers care about going to college?00:25:12 – Mathew’s take on how Gen Z thinks about AI00:27:52 – How Mathew thinks about the effects of social media00:31:29 – Gen Z’s relationship with books and reading00:38:57 – Mathew ranks ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, and Grok00:47:12 – Why Mathew is building Berry, an AI stuffed animal for teen mental healthLinks to resources mentioned in the episode:Alex Mathew: Alex Mathew (@alxmthew)More about Berry: https://berryplush.com/, Berry (@berryaiplushies)

OpenAI's Codex: This Model Is So Fast It Changes How You Code

Feb 18th, 2026 6:13 PM

OpenAI’s hottest app isn’t ChatGPT—it’s Codex.In the last few weeks alone, the Codex team shipped a desktop app, GPT-5.3 Codex (a new flagship model), and Spark, the fastest coding model I’ve ever used. Usage has grown fivefold since January, and over a million people now use Codex weekly. Codex was also the app that OpenAI chose to run an ad for in the Super Bowl.Dan Shipper talked to Thibault Sottiaux, head of Codex, and Andrew Ambrosino, a member of technical staff who built the Codex app, for Every’s AI & I about what OpenAI is building and how they’re using it internally.If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share! Want even more?Sign up for Every to unlock our ultimate guide to prompting ChatGPT here: https://every.ck.page/ultimate-guide-to-prompting-chatgpt. It’s usually only for paying subscribers, but you can get it here for free.To hear more from Dan Shipper:Subscribe to Every: https://every.to/subscribe Follow him on X: https://twitter.com/danshipper Head to granola.ai/every and get 3 months free with the code EVERY.Timestamps:  00:00:00 - Start00:01:27 - Introduction 00:05:27 - OpenAI's evolving bet on its coding agent 00:09:42 - The choice to invest in a GUI (over a terminal) 00:20:38 - The AI workflows that the Codex team relies on to ship 00:26:45 - Teaching Codex how to read between the lines 00:28:45 - Building affordances for a lightening fast model 00:33:15 - Why speed is a dimension of intelligence 00:36:30 - Code review is the next bottleneck for coding agents 00:41:24 - How the Codex team positions against the competition Links to resources mentioned in the episode:Thibault Sottiaux: Tibo (@thsottiaux)Andrew Ambrosino: Andrew Ambrosino (@ajambrosino)Every’s vibe check on everything the Codex team launched: OpenAI's Codex App Gains Ground on Claude Code, GPT-5.3 Codex—The 10x Engineer, Now More Fun at Parties, AI as Fast as Your Train of Thought

Inside OpenAI’s Agentic Browser, Atlas

Feb 11th, 2026 4:00 PM

The AI labs fighting for attention during the Super Bowl call to mind another iconic Super Bowl moment: Apple’s 1984 ad for the Macintosh, which promised that the personal computer would be a source of unbound wonder, freedom, and delight.They were right, but over time, the personal computer has also become cluttered with errands.These “computer errands”—downloading a W-2 when tax season rolls around, hunting for the right coupon code before checkout, or navigating the unholy labyrinth of the Amazon Web Services dashboard just to change one permission setting—have taken over our digital lives. Atlas, OpenAI’s agentic browser, sprang from the idea that AI should handle this tedium for you.In this week’s episode of AI & I, Dan Shipper sat down with two members of the Atlas team, Ben Goodger and Darin Fisher. Goodger is Atlas’s head of engineering, and Fisher is a member of the technical staff. Both are legends of the browser world. They’ve spent decades building the modern web, working together on Netscape, Firefox, and Chrome before arriving at Atlas. From that vantage point, they told Dan how they think browsing is about to change, why building a browser is harder than it looks, and what it’s like to create a new one with AI coding tools like Codex.If you found this episode interesting, please like, subscribe, comment, and share! Want even more?Sign up for Every to unlock our ultimate guide to prompting ChatGPT here: https://every.ck.page/ultimate-guide-to-prompting-chatgpt. It’s usually only for paying subscribers, but you can get it here for free.To hear more from Dan Shipper:Subscribe to Every: https://every.to/subscribe Follow him on X: https://twitter.com/danshipper Move fast, don’t break thingsMost AI coding tools don’t know which line of code will actually break your system. Try Augment Code, which understands your entire codebase, including the repos, languages, and dependencies that actually runs your business, and use their playbook to learn more about their framework, checklists, and assessments. Ship 30% faster with 40% shorter merge times.[Playbook at https://www.augmentcode.com/]Timestamps:  00:01:57 - Introduction00:11:51 - Designing an AI browser that’s intuitive to use00:15:24 - How the web changes if agents do most of the browsing00:25:06 - Why traditional websites will not become obsolete00:29:00 - A browser that stays out of the way versus one that shows you around00:39:51 - How the team uses Codex to build Atlas00:44:47 - The craft of coding with AI tools00:52:33 - Why Goodger and Fisher care so much about browsersLinks to resources mentioned in the episode:Ben Goodger: Ben Goodger (@bengoodger) Darin Fisher: Darin Fisher (@darinwf) OpenAI’s browser, Atlas: Introducing ChatGPT Atlas

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