Pursuit With Cliff - Cliff Gray

Pursuit With Cliff - Cliff Gray

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Hunt. Fish. Spear. Get Better at It. Interviews with those that have done it.

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HIGH FENCE vs. FREE RANGE - The Texas Experience IS CHANGING - Brian Gilroy

Jun 29th, 2026 12:00 PM

Brian Gilroy runs Wildlife Partners, the largest exotic animal breeding operation in North America and a Cape buffalo herd that didn't exist in private hands a decade ago. He's also hunted Dall sheep in remote Alaska, muskox on Nunivak Island, and elk in New Mexico. This episode is a reality check on how the hunting industry actually works and why the free-range vs. high-fence moral war is mostly mythology from Brian's perspective.Texas is now on South Africa's radar as a direct competitor. Same animals, same large high-fence model, no 13-hour flight, five-star lodges, and populations of kudu, Cape buffalo, sable, and ibex growing every year. Brian explains the economics of exotic breeding as a tax strategy (why a self-reproducing kudu cow beats a tractor), why CWD has made native cervid breeding almost impossible, why put-and-take hunting is a dead model, and what a Wyoming or New Mexico application really costs over a lifetime. The episode closes with Brian's Alaska sheep story... the outfitter who knew every animal, flew him to the sheep, and pointed him at it. The honest question: why is that different from hunting 15,000 acres in Texas?Texas vs. South Africa — why SA should be genuinely worriedCape buffalo in TexasKudu, sable, red deer: population growth and what hunts will cost in five yearsWhy CWD killed native cervid breeding and exotics filled the gapExotic breeding as a business — 100% depreciation on an animal that reproduces itselfThe real cost of a sheep draw, a BC Dall sheep, or a New Mexico applicationThe Alaska sheep story and why free range is less pure than most hunters believeGuest: Brian Gilroy — CEO, Wildlife Partners. Exotic breeder and hunter. Boerne, TX. wildlifepartners.com---FOLLOW CLIFFYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/CliffGrayInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/Cliffgry/Facebook - https://facebook.com/PursuitWithCliffPursuit With Cliff Podcasthttps://pursuitwithcliff.com/interviews-and-podcasts/Cliff's Hunt Planning and Strategy Membership https://pursuitwithcliff.com/membership/Hunt. Fish. Spear.  (Experiences, Courses and Seminars) https://pursuitwithcliff.com/ExperiencesMerchhttps://pursuitwithcliff.com/shop/SUBSCRIBE TO CLIFF'S NEWSLETTER:https://PursuitWithCliff.com/#Newsletter

36 Years Guiding Elk Hunters and Colorado's New Draw - Scott Limmer

Jun 22nd, 2026 12:00 PM

A 36-season Colorado wilderness outfitter, Scott Limmer, doesn't sugarcoat it: the new 50%-random draw is about to blow up point inflation and gut the predictability that made Colorado elk hunting plannable. We get into that, the big-bull reality most hunters won't admit, and a stack of Africa stories you won't hear anywhere else.In this episode:Why the 2028 draw overhaul tripled the exact point inflation it was meant to fixThe hard truth about how giant public-land bulls actually get killedGlassing a burn, calling pressure, and why elk go nocturnalGetting ambushed by the LRA on a bongo hunt in the Central African RepublicHow Gaddafi's loose weapons fueled Africa's elephant-poaching waveThe wolf "crap show" and where Colorado's right-to-hunt fight standsScott Limmer - https://www.instagram.com/elimminator/Scott's Outfitting Business - https://comanchewildernessoutfitters.com/---FOLLOW CLIFFYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/CliffGrayInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/Cliffgry/Facebook - https://facebook.com/PursuitWithCliffPursuit With Cliff Podcasthttps://pursuitwithcliff.com/interviews-and-podcasts/Cliff's Hunt Planning and Strategy Membership https://pursuitwithcliff.com/membership/Hunt. Fish. Spear.  (Experiences, Courses and Seminars) https://pursuitwithcliff.com/ExperiencesMerchhttps://pursuitwithcliff.com/shop/SUBSCRIBE TO CLIFF'S NEWSLETTER:https://PursuitWithCliff.com/#Newsletter

Real Leather, Hides With Crazy Backgrounds and Real American Made - AG Gregoroff

Jun 18th, 2026 12:00 PM

AG makes the most expensive and strongest flip-flops on earth. Sounds insane, but I like his business. This is a conversation about authentic materials, the economics of making something real, why almost everything in your life is fake, and what happens when an environmental group comes after you with a campaign.AG is the founder of Toehold, a Las Vegas-based company that sources elephant, hippo, crocodile, shark, and zebra hides — old-world vegetable-tanned leather, made in America, by hand. We get into the murder hides specifically: a bull elephant called the Red Ghost, a man-eating croc, and hippos that have trampled people. From there the conversation expands into why real leather smells the way it does, why your car seat isn't what you think it is.We finish the conversation with a discussion about spearfishing and freediving. Guest: AG Gregoroff — Founder/CEO of Toehold. ---FOLLOW CLIFFYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/CliffGrayInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/Cliffgry/Facebook - https://facebook.com/PursuitWithCliffPursuit With Cliff Podcasthttps://pursuitwithcliff.com/interviews-and-podcasts/Cliff's Hunt Planning and Strategy Membership https://pursuitwithcliff.com/membership/Hunt. Fish. Spear.  (Experiences, Courses and Seminars) https://pursuitwithcliff.com/ExperiencesMerchhttps://pursuitwithcliff.com/shop/SUBSCRIBE TO CLIFF'S NEWSLETTER:https://PursuitWithCliff.com/#Newsletter

Backcountry Elk Hunting with Horses and Mules - Truths NOBODY Tells YOU

Jun 15th, 2026 12:00 PM

 A decade-plus of guiding off horses and mules, distilled into a Q&A with Vince who is going on his first horseback elk hunt. Cliff doesn't sugarcoat it: horses are always a cost, sometimes a massive advantage, and never the shortcut people think they are. In this episode: Why packing horses is something you do after you have horse experience — not how you get into itBuying and culling stock: why disposition beats conformation every timeThe "herd effect" — using seasoned animals to settle green ones in the mountainsHobbles, picketing, hot fence, and why you never leave halters on turned-out shod horsesSawbuck vs. Decker, crupper, cinches, blankets, and loading meat soloTrail etiquette, saddle soreness, knife carry, tying up, and trucks/trailers on ice Packing book mentioned - https://amzn.to/4oqCn3w---FOLLOW CLIFFYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/CliffGrayInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/Cliffgry/Facebook - https://facebook.com/PursuitWithCliffPursuit With Cliff Podcasthttps://pursuitwithcliff.com/interviews-and-podcasts/Cliff's Hunt Planning and Strategy Membership https://pursuitwithcliff.com/membership/Hunt. Fish. Spear.  (Experiences, Courses and Seminars) https://pursuitwithcliff.com/ExperiencesMerchhttps://pursuitwithcliff.com/shop/SUBSCRIBE TO CLIFF'S NEWSLETTER:https://PursuitWithCliff.com/#Newsletter

What An Ex Scout Sniper TEACHES HUNTERS — Brian Poor, Gunwerks

Jun 12th, 2026 7:00 PM

Brian Poor, a former Marine scout sniper and SWAT instructor who now teaches Western hunters through Gunwerks sat down with me to break down what actually matters when an animal gives you an opportunity at distance.In this episode:Why truing your ballistics is the #1 thing most long-range hunters skip — and why a half-minute error means you miss half the time at 800 yardsWhy prone is overrated in the fieldLoading the bipod, cant vs. pan, and the rear-rest mistake that sends 4 of 5 shots highBuck fever decoded: why "timing" the trigger through the vitals is the worst thing you can doThe kneeling, reverse-slope tripod setup that keeps you concealedReading mountain wind, setting your real limit, and why a tricky day can cut 300 yards off your maxThe four stock-design features Brian won't shoot without---FOLLOW CLIFFYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/CliffGrayInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/Cliffgry/Facebook - https://facebook.com/PursuitWithCliffPursuit With Cliff Podcasthttps://pursuitwithcliff.com/interviews-and-podcasts/Cliff's Hunt Planning and Strategy Membership https://pursuitwithcliff.com/membership/Hunt. Fish. Spear.  (Experiences, Courses and Seminars) https://pursuitwithcliff.com/ExperiencesMerchhttps://pursuitwithcliff.com/shop/SUBSCRIBE TO CLIFF'S NEWSLETTER:https://PursuitWithCliff.com/#Newsletter

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