Two Crime Besties

Episode 99: A Taste of Patreon - Crime Adjacent: Mackenzie Shirilla

Summary:This week we are giving all our listeners a taste of our Patreon, Crime Adjacent.   Buckle in for a ride as we get a little loose and chat about the widely popular Netflix documentary “The Crash” which covered the case of Mackenzie Shirilla.  We discuss the tragic events, the personalities involved, and the societal issues surrounding youth, social media, and accountability. We share our very raw opinions and insights on the case, highlighting the disturbing behaviours and legal outcomes.Join us on Patreon:If you would like more of us join us for Two Crime Besties: Crime Adjacent over on Patreon! More laughs, more banter, more crime-adjacent chaos.⁠Patreon.com/twocrimebestiesKeywords:The Crash Netflix, true crime, youth crime, social media influence, legal case, Mackenzie Shirilla, teenage relationships, accountability, documentary analysis Sources and other linksThe Crash, Netflix Documentary If any of our content is distressing & you need to talk (Australia):Lifeline Phone: 13 11 14 https://www.lifeline.org.au/ Or please seek assistance in your country Check us out on our socials for images and updates:⁠Instagram⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠Website⁠  “Buy Me a Coffee”.If you'd like to keep us caffeinated (or wined 😉) while we prep our next episode, please feel free to  click the below link to buy us a coffee. https://buymeacoffee.com/twocrimebesties Buy your very own Two Crime Besties Merch here: www.twocrimebesties.com/merch Also check out the LinkTree ihttps://linktr.ee/Twocrimebesties  for all our links. Stay curious,  crime besties! Disclaimer:The content of this podcast is intended for mature audiences. The topics discussed may contain sensitive material related to real-life crimes, violence, and distressing events that may be disturbing or triggering. All opinions expressed are those of the hosts and guests and do not reflect the views of any organisations or entities associated with the production. While we strive to provide accurate and factual information, true crime stories may involve speculation, theories, and varying interpretations of events. Some details may be presented in a way that is meant to engage and educate rather than to sensationalise. Listener discretion is advised. Chapters:00:00 Introduction and Patreon shoutout01:01 Background of the documentary and case02:28 Details of the crash and key individuals04:25 Focus on Mackenzie Shirilla and her personality06:37 Parents' behaviour and social media influence08:56 Legal proceedings and sentencing10:46 The documentary's perspective and missing details12:13 The family dynamics and relationships14:00 Teenage behaviour, drug use, and social media16:42 Mackenzie’s personality and school life19:06 Relationship issues and escalation21:05 Legal charges and evidence23:50 Parental neglect and oversight26:39 Pre-crash behaviour and planning28:43 Details of the crash and her driving33:16 Her attitude during the crash and aftermath36:21 Public reaction and social media influence40:51 Prison life and her persona in incarceration43:36 Her appearance and behaviour in court56:41 Judicial commentary and sentencing58:13 Reflections on remorse and accountability01:00:28 Legal and societal implications01:04:22 Closing thoughts and listener engagement

Episode 98 - Theo Hayez and Other Disappearances near Byron Bay

Summary:In this episode, we delve into the mysterious case of Theo Hayez’s disappearance in Byron Bay, exploring the evidence, theories, and ongoing questions surrounding his case. We also discuss other local disappearances and the possibility of a serial killer operating in the area. Keywords:Theo Hayez, Byron Bay disappearance, travel mystery, Australian true crime, missing person, travel safety, crime investigation, Byron Bay, The Byron Bay Butcher, serial killer, unsolved cases, foul play, investigation, mystery, true crime Sources and other linksNightmare in Paradise, 60 Minutes AustraliaThe Lighthouse, The Australian, Podcast If any of our content is distressing & you need to talk (Australia):Lifeline Phone: 13 11 14https://www.lifeline.org.au/Or please seek assistance in your country Check us out on our socials for images and updates:⁠Instagram⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠Website⁠  Join us on Patreon:If you would like more of us join us for Two Crime Besties: Crime Adjacent over on Patreon! More laughs, more banter, more crime-adjacent chaos.⁠Patreon.com/twocrimebesties “Buy Me a Coffee”.If you'd like to keep us caffeinated (or wined 😉) while we prep our next episode, please feel free to click the below link to buy us a coffee.https://buymeacoffee.com/twocrimebesties Buy your very own Two Crime Besties Merch here: www.twocrimebesties.com/merch Also check out the LinkTree ihttps://linktr.ee/Twocrimebesties  for all our links Stay curious,  crime besties! Disclaimer:The content of this podcast is intended for mature audiences. The topics discussed may contain sensitive material related to real-life crimes, violence, and distressing events that may be disturbing or triggering. All opinions expressed are those of the hosts and guests and do not reflect the views of any organisations or entities associated with the production. While we strive to provide accurate and factual information, true crime stories may involve speculation, theories, and varying interpretations of events. Some details may be presented in a way that is meant to engage and educate rather than to sensationalise. Listener discretion is advised. Chapters:00:00 Opening banter06:50 Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce Wedding16:40 Shoutouts18:25 Introduction to Theo Hayes' case24:02 Travel plans and arrival in Australia31:55 The night of disappearance: Byron Bay nightlife39:50 Security footage and GPS analysis44:51 The environment and known risk areas01:14:50 Potential theories and ongoing investigation01:31:48 Other Byron Bay Disappearances 

Episode 97 - Part 2: Kathleen Folbigg

Summary: In Part 2 of this episode, we explore the scientific evidence, legal battles, and societal implications surrounding her wrongfulconviction and eventual pardon. We discuss the importance of scientific advancements in justice and the need for open-mindedness in legal cases. Keywords:Kathleen Folbigg, miscarriage of justice, child death, Australian True Crime, trauma, SIDS, forensic science, wrongful conviction, forensic evidence, maternal guilt, criminal justice Sources and other linksFight For Freedom: Kathleen Folbigg, Australian Story, ABC iviewUnbroken: The Kathleen Folbigg Story, Seven News SpotlightMurder Under the Microscope, 60 minutes Australia, Ep 28, 2021 If any of our content is distressing & you need to talk (Australia):Lifeline Phone: 13 11 14https://www.lifeline.org.au/Or please seek assistance in your country Check us out on our socials for images and updates:⁠Instagram⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠Website⁠ Join us on Patreon:If you would like more of us join us for Two Crime Besties: Crime Adjacent over on Patreon! More laughs, more banter, more crime-adjacent chaos.⁠Patreon.com/twocrimebesties “Buy Me a Coffee”.If you'd like to keep us caffeinated (or wined 😉) while we prep our next episode, please feel free to  click the below link to buy us a coffee. https://buymeacoffee.com/twocrimebesties Buy your very own Two Crime Besties Merch here: www.twocrimebesties.com/merch Also check out the LinkTree ihttps://linktr.ee/Twocrimebesties  for all our links Stay curious,  crime besties!Disclaimer:The content of this podcast is intended for mature audiences. The topics discussed may contain sensitive material related to real-life crimes, violence, and distressing events that may be disturbing or triggering. All opinions expressed are those of the hosts and guests and do not reflect the views of any organisations or entities associated with the production. While we strive to provide accurate and factual information, true crime stories may involve speculation, theories, and varying interpretations of events. Some details may be presented in a way that is meant to engage and educate rather than to sensationalise. Listener discretion is advised.Chapters:00:00 Introduction to the Tournament and Game Rules02:47 Welcome Back: Recap and Context19:23 Kathleen's Trial: Craig's Testimony and Its Implications25:03 Support for Kathleen: Friends and Advocacy27:34 Reopening the Case: New Evidence and Inquiry32:30 Genetic Findings: Understanding the Children's Deaths35:22 Unravelling Genetic Mysteries39:41 The Fight for Justice42:07 A Pardon, Not Exoneration47:42 Compensation and Its Implications51:55 The Aftermath of Injustice01:03:44 Lessons Learned and Moving Forward

Episode 97 - Part 1: Kathleen Folbigg

Summary:In part 1 of this deep dive into the complex and tragic life of Kathleen Folbigg, we explore her childhood trauma, her struggles with motherhood, and the controversial case that led to her imprisonment for the alleged murder of her children. In part 2 we will explore what happened after her imprisonment.  This case raises important questions about justice, trauma, and the justice system in Australia.  Keywords:Kathleen Folbigg, miscarriage of justice, child death,Australian True Crime, trauma, SIDS, forensic science, wrongful conviction, forensic evidence, maternal guilt, criminal justice Sources and other linksFightFor Freedom: Kathleen Folbigg, Australian Story, ABC iviewUnbroken:The Kathleen Folbigg Story, Seven News SpotlightMurder Under theMicroscope, 60 minutes Australia, Ep 28, 2021 If any of our content is distressing & you need totalk (Australia):Lifeline Phone: 13 11 14https://www.lifeline.org.au/Or please seek assistance in your country Check us out on our socials for images and updates:⁠Instagram⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠Website⁠  Join us on Patreon:If you would like more of us join us for Two CrimeBesties: Crime Adjacent over on Patreon! More laughs, more banter, more crime-adjacentchaos.⁠Patreon.com/twocrimebesties “Buy Me a Coffee”.If you'd like to keep us caffeinated (or wined 😉) while we prep our next episode, please feel free to  click the below link to buy us a coffee.https://buymeacoffee.com/twocrimebesties Buy your very own Two Crime Besties Merch here: www.twocrimebesties.com/merch Also check out the LinkTree ihttps://linktr.ee/Twocrimebesties  for all our links Stay curious, crime besties! Disclaimer:The content of this podcast is intended for mature audiences. The topics discussed may contain sensitive material related to real-life crimes, violence, and distressing events that may be disturbing or triggering. All opinions expressed are those of the hosts and guests and do not reflect the views of any organisations or entities associated with the production. While we strive to provide accurate and factual information, true crime stories may involve speculation, theories, and varying interpretations of events. Some details may be presented in a way that is meant to engage and educate rather than to sensationalise. Listener discretion is advised.Chapters:00:00 Introduction & Personal Updates (The Banter)26:29 The Case of Kathleen Folbigg: A Miscarriage of Justice39:44 The Challenges of Early Parenthood45:48 The Tragedy of Caleb's Death49:56 Coping with Loss and the Birth of Patrick56:02 The Heartbreak of Losing Patrick01:00:14 The Birth of Sarah and New Hope01:05:47 The Unthinkable Loss of Sarah01:09:54 Struggles in Marriage After Loss01:10:21 The Birth of Laura and Renewed Anxiety01:17:05 The Final Tragedy: Laura's Death01:19:29 The Tragedy of Loss and Accusation01:33:28 The Investigation and Its Flaws01:37:23 The Trial and Its Controversies01:51:34 Sentencing and Public Perception

Episode 96 - The Murder of Christine Banfield and Joseph Ryan

Summary:In this episode, we delve into the complex case of Christine Banfield and Joseph Ryan, exploring their backgrounds, the tragic events, and the investigation that followed. We delve into the complex criminal case involving premeditation, digital forensics, and courtroom drama. We highlight the importance of understanding lesser-known victims and the dynamics of this shocking case.  Keywords:true crime, Christine Banfield, Joseph Ryan, Brendan Banfield, Juliana Peres Magalhães, investigation, forensic evidence, legal proceedings, forensic evidence, criminal trial, digital forensics, motive, courtroom, case analysis Sources and other linksThe Au Pair Affair Murder Trial, CourtTV YouTube If any of our content is distressing & you need to talk (Australia):Lifeline Phone: 13 11 14https://www.lifeline.org.au/Or please seek assistance in your country Check us out on our socials for images and updates:⁠Instagram⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠Website⁠  Join us on Patreon:If you would like more of us join us for Two Crime Besties: Crime Adjacent over on Patreon! More laughs, more banter, more crime-adjacent chaos.⁠Patreon.com/twocrimebesties “Buy Me a Coffee”.If you'd like to keep us caffeinated (or wined 😉) while we prep our next episode, please feel free to  click the below link to buy us a coffee.https://buymeacoffee.com/twocrimebesties Buy your very own Two Crime Besties Merch here: www.twocrimebesties.com/merch Also check out the LinkTree ihttps://linktr.ee/Twocrimebesties  for all our links Stay curious,  crime besties! Disclaimer:The content of this podcast is intended for mature audiences. The topics discussed may contain sensitive material related to real-life crimes, violence, and distressing events that may be disturbing or triggering. All opinions expressed are those of the hosts and guests and do not reflect the views of any organisations or entities associated with the production. While we strive to provide accurate and factual information, true crime stories may involve speculation, theories, and varying interpretations of events. Some details may be presented in a way that is meant to engage and educate rather than to sensationalise. Listener discretion is advised. Chapters:00:00 Introduction and Personal Updates14:07 The Case of Christine Banfield and Joseph Ryan32:23 Background on Christine Banfield and Her Family33:43 The Role of Juliana and the Au Pair Experience33:52 The Affair Begins: Power Dynamics and Imbalances40:05 The Day of the Incident: A Series of Events49:53 Unravelling the Mystery: Communication and Evidence01:01:03 The Role Play Gone Wrong: A Fatal Encounter01:07:52 The Aftermath: Investigation and Consequences01:08:22 The Arrest of Juliana and Its Implications01:12:38 The Investigation and Evidence Found01:16:41 The Plea Deal and Its Consequences01:20:26 The Trial of Brendan and Key Evidence01:23:20 Sentencing and Reflections on Motives01:27:30 The Impact on the Victims' Families01:31:44 The Aftermath and Public Perception