Don't Listen To Us with Mandy Patinkin and Kathryn Grody

Try This: Tenants Are Fighting for Their Right to Clean Air

Enjoy this episode of Good Things, a Lemonada show that amplifies the good work being done by activists and organizers all over the country.  Most people think of pollution as something outside, like smog and exhaust. But gas stoves, ovens, furnaces, and water heaters can actually release nitrogen dioxide directly into your home. For renters, that's a problem without easy solutions: unlike homeowners, they can't simply swap in safer, cleaner energy sources, and landlords and policymakers have been slow to act. In this episode, host Gloria Riviera speaks with Adama Moussa Harouna and Tanushree Dutta Isaacman, organizers at Action in Montgomery, about their work pushing for safer living conditions, lower toxic emissions, and a more sustainable energy future for renters. This episode was made in partnership with Action in Montgomery. To learn more about their work, visit actioninmontgomery.org  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Do Your Friends Have to Share Your Values?

Should you tell a friend you think their job is unethical? Mandy and Kathryn disagree. A listener asks about using AI as a creative. Mandy and Kathryn play the role of their lives - AI bots. Find out what prompts they used. Oh, and Gene Kelly’s wife calls to chat about the famous dancer and actor’s final years and his advice to Mandy. This episode originally aired on 11/19/2025. Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here: https://www.speakpipe.com/AskMandyandKathryn or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com. 👉 Subscribe so you don’t miss a new episode every week! 🎧 Listen to the podcast on all platforms: https://lemonada.lnk.to/DontListenToUsYT  📱Follow us: @mandypatinkin @lemonadamedia  #MandyPatinkin #KathrynGrody #Podcast #DontListenToUs Head over to Booking.com and start your listing today. Chapters: 00:00 - How we’re feeling today.  01:02 - Mandy's favourite vs Gideon’s favourite joke. 03:09 - Would you tell a friend to quit a job you think is unethical? Mandy and Kathryn disagree. 15:01 - What are the boundaries of using AI in the creative space?  18:40 - Becky gets up! Did you see her?  19:09 - Kathryn’s fear of AI and how Mandy uses it in his concerts.   23:45 - Mandy and Kathryn try their hand at playing an AI bot. Find out what prompts they gave.  25:46 - Iconic dancer Gene Kelly’s widow - Patricia Kelly - asks a question!    27:23 - Gene Kelly’s advice to a young Mandy.  32:27 - How Gene Kelly and Patricia met and other memories.  38:21 - Gene Kelly’s later years and lessons in aging. 45:02 - Singing in the Rain is public domain…so the family sings! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Does Wisdom Come With Age? Starting Over After a Move

A surprise Off-Off-Broadway debut. The most unforgettable compliment Kathryn Grody and Mandy Patinkin have ever received. One of them left us speechless. Does wisdom always come with age? Or, is that just something older people tell us? And, a question many listeners can relate to: how do you rebuild your life after a major move and start over in a new place? Plus, Kathryn tries her hand at K-Pop - generational culture divides be damned.  Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here: https://www.speakpipe.com/AskMandyandKathryn or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com. 👉 Subscribe so you don’t miss a new episode every week! 🎧 Listen to the podcast on all platforms: https://lemonada.lnk.to/DontListenToUsYT  📱Follow us: @mandypatinkin @lemonadamedia  #MandyPatinkin #KathrynGrody #Podcast #DontListenToUs Chapters: 00:00 Becky’s musical debut. In case you missed it!  01:50 Welcome to Don’t Listen to Us! We’re all about the compliments.  02:00 The best compliment Kathryn Grody has ever received.  02:45 A generational culture feud. Gena Rowlands, anyone? John Cassavetes? Joe and Gail Papp? Slam Dance Butterfingers? ;)  04:55 Mandy Patinkin’s most memorable “compliment.” Gideon’s response? “Wow.” 07:44 The best compliment Mandy Patinkin and Kathryn Grody ever gave each other. 08:19 Does wisdom always come with age? And, when have you felt the wisest?  09:50 Mandy Patinkin “thinks too much.”  11:04 Kathryn Grody’s thoughts on what keeps you wise.  11:55 Kathryn Grody’s impression of K-Pop.  13:27 The one tip that will help you become wise.  14:10 Dog treat taste test… Again?  14:25 Family’s old dog, Nondo, and the disputed energy bar story.  16:03 A family friend joins us. He shares his story of fleeing Afghanistan and what it was like to start from scratch and settle in America. 20:18 Community, social life and neighbourly connections. What our family friend misses most about Afghanistan.   21:55 Listener question: How do you adjust to a new life and start over?  27:05 How do you remember who you are when everything and everyone around you is new? 31:00 Goodbyes. Send us your questions. Credits. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Have You Ever Encountered a Ghost?

A listener asks Mandy and Kathryn whether they've ever encountered a ghost. Stories about the paranormal, being present at a birth and a death, and the surprise career turning points that shape a life.  Also, a conversation about how theater should be more welcoming to audiences with diverse needs, and the raucous return of the Dating Game. Do Mandy Patinkin and Kathryn Grody know each other’s favorite movie? Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here: https://www.speakpipe.com/AskMandyandKathryn or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com. Check out Touretteshero.com! Their mission is to create an inclusive and socially just world for disabled and non-disabled people through cultural practice. Watch on Spotify. Spotify Premium users get no commercial breaks on our show. 👉 Subscribe so you don’t miss a new episode every week! 🎧 Listen to the podcast on all platforms: https://lemonada.lnk.to/DontListenToUsYT  📱Follow us: @mandypatinkin @lemonadamedia  #MandyPatinkin #KathrynGrody #Podcast #DontListenToUs Chapters: 00:00 Tech Troubles and Home on the Range 00:25 Morning Check-In With Mandy Patinkin and Kathryn Grody 01:33 Breathing Exercise for Stress Relief 02:19 Collagen Coffee and Wellness Trends 03:22 Listener Question: Do You Believe in Ghosts? 03:47 Ghost Stories and Theater Hauntings 06:45 Mandy's Paranormal Experience of Death 09:16 How Small Moments Shape Our Lives 09:53 The Paper Bag Memory That Changed Everything 12:18 Rewriting Your Life Story 13:15 Kathryn's Unexpected Broadway Break 14:12 Auditions, Connection, and Being Seen 14:59 The Power of Giving Birth 16:18 Listener Question from a Neurodivergent Theater Lover 18:33 Making Theater Welcoming for Everyone 19:04 Relaxed Performances and Autism-Friendly Theater 23:45 Accessibility, Inclusion, and Advocacy in the Arts 27:18 Tourette Syndrome at the Edinburgh Fringe 31:58 Dating Game! 33:46 Do Mandy and Kathryn Know Each Other’s Favorite Movie? 36:29 Credits, Subscribe, and Listener Questions Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Dating App Episode (Plus a Rare Sondheim Story)

What would happen if Mandy Patinkin and Kathryn Grody joined a dating app? In this episode, they imagine their dating profiles, invent wildly different dating apps of their own, and reveal what they're really looking for in human connection. Plus, a listener question about navigating a younger, condescending boss at work. And Mandy tells the unforgettable story of the first time Stephen Sondheim played him "Finishing the Hat" during rehearsal for Sunday in the Park with George—and why, decades later, he still rarely sings the song outside the show. Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here: https://www.speakpipe.com/AskMandyandKathryn or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com. 👉 Subscribe so you don’t miss a new episode every week! 🎧 Listen to the podcast on all platforms: https://lemonada.lnk.to/DontListenToUsYT  📱Follow us: @mandypatinkin @lemonadamedia  #MandyPatinkin #KathrynGrody #Podcast #DontListenToUs Head over to Booking.com and start your listing today. Chapters: 00:00 Home on the Range! 01:30 Mandy and Kathryn Catch Up 02:58 What If Mandy and Kathryn Joined Dating Apps? 04:04 Dating Apps Explained (and Misunderstood) 05:26 The Weirdest Niche Dating Apps 06:50 Dating App Dealbreakers 07:46 The Hugging App: Would It Work? 11:09 Building Mandy and Kathryn's Dating Profiles 14:59 Inventing Our Own Dating Apps 15:59 What is a Cultural Touchstone That Changed You? 17:17 Empathy Across Generations 18:22 Learning Empathy and Perspective 20:25 Why Kathryn Changed Her Mind About Musicals 21:21 Mandy Patinkin on the Origins of "Finishing the Hat" 23:19 The First Time Stephen Sondheim Shared "Finishing the Hat" 26:42 How Mandy Felt When He First Sang “Finishing the Hat”  29:13 Workplace Advice: Dealing With a Younger Boss 35:38 Giving Creative Notes Across Generations 37:52 Final Thoughts and Credits Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices