A Productive Conversation

PM Talks S3E2: Poise Under Pressure in a Fractured Moment

This episode is the latest in our monthly PM Talks series, where Patrick Rhone and I step back from tactics and tools to explore the deeper questions that shape how we live, work, and show up. What we planned to discuss was poise—but what we actually talked about was something more urgent.Recorded in real time as events were unfolding in Minneapolis and St. Paul, this conversation became about moral clarity, civic responsibility, and what it means to stay aligned when neutrality no longer feels like an option. This isn’t a polished debate or a tidy argument. It’s a candid conversation about right versus wrong—and why that distinction matters now.Six Discussion PointsWhy this conversation couldn’t follow the plan—and why that matteredThe difference between poise as composure and poise as alignmentWhy this moment isn’t about left versus right, but right versus wrongThe danger of performative belief and the erosion of truthHow lived experience carries weight even when it isn’t “linkable”What it means to keep living your life responsibly in a fractured momentThree Connection PointsRequiem for the American Dream (documentary)Willhoit’s Law (on power and the application of law)PM Talks series archiveI’m grateful Patrick was willing to have this conversation when he did, and I’m grateful to you for listening. This episode isn’t meant to inflame or persuade—it’s meant to bear witness. Sometimes that’s the most productive thing we can do.

Thom Gibson Talks About Work-From-Home Fatherhood, Six-Hour Workdays, and Sustainable Family Rhythms

Working from home sounds simple—until kids, calendars, meals, meetings, and relationships all collide. In this episode, I sit down with Thom Gibson, a work-from-home dad and social media strategist, to talk honestly about what it really takes to make remote work and family life coexist.Thom is the founder of WFH Dads, and his perspective is grounded not in theory, but in lived experience—raising two young kids, navigating shared schedules with his wife, and building a workday that leaves room for presence, not just productivity.Six Discussion PointsHow Thom transitioned into working from home during the pandemic—and why he stayedWhy default schedules matter more than perfect plansThe overlooked power of clear boundaries between “work time” and “family time”How simplifying meals reduces daily decision fatigueWhy Thom changed his journaling practice after 15 yearsThe thinking behind the Six-Hour Workday Playbook for dadsThree Connection PointsWFH DadsGet The Six-Hour Workday PlaybookHow to Build a Powerful Journal in 3 Steps (Starting Today)This conversation reinforced something I’ve believed for a long time: structure isn’t the enemy of freedom—it’s what makes freedom possible. Thom’s approach to work-from-home life is thoughtful, practical, and refreshingly human, and I think a lot of parents—especially dads—will see themselves reflected in this episode.

Brad Stulberg Talks About Sustainable Excellence, Mastery, and Doing What Truly Matters

This week on A Productive Conversation, I sit down with Brad Stulberg, author of The Way of Excellence, to explore what excellence really means in a world obsessed with efficiency, optimization, and performative productivity. Brad has spent years studying sustainable excellence across sport, leadership, creativity, and life—and this conversation digs into why excellence is neither perfection nor hustle, but something far more human.Brad and I unpack the difference between true excellence and what he calls “pseudo-excellence,” why metrics often outlive their usefulness, and how habits like routine, curiosity, and gumption play a central role in meaningful progress. Along the way, we explore why satisfaction outlasts happiness, why flow isn’t always the goal, and how focusing on the task at hand—not the time on hand—changes everything.Six Discussion PointsWhy excellence must be reclaimed from hustle culture, optimization, and perfectionismThe difference between efficiency and excellence—and why short-term efficiency often undermines long-term growthMetrics, mastery, and knowing when measures help—or get in the wayFlow versus values-driven excellence (and why not all flow is good)Gumption, routines, and building momentum without becoming roboticWhy satisfaction comes from effort on worthwhile work, not outcomes aloneThree Connection PointsThe Way of Excellence by Brad StulbergThe Growth Equation (Blog Posts)Listen to Brad's previous appearance on APCThis conversation is a reminder that excellence isn’t about doing more—it’s about doing what matters with care, patience, and intention. Brad’s work offers a compelling counterpoint to the constant pressure to optimize everything, and instead invites us to pursue a more grounded, values-aligned version of success—one that shapes us as much as the work itself.

Brad Farris Talks About Leadership, Presence, and Scaling Beyond the $1M Agency Plateau

There are moments when a conversation slows you down in the best possible way. My discussion with Brad Farris was one of those moments—a reminder that growth isn’t just about doing more, faster, or harder, but about becoming the kind of leader who can sustain momentum without burning everything down in the process.Brad has spent decades working alongside agency and expert-firm owners, helping them move past the $1M–$2M ceiling and into healthier, more durable growth. What stood out to me wasn’t just his experience—it was his insistence that the real work happens internally. The biggest constraint to progress, he argues, isn’t strategy or systems. It’s what’s happening between your ears.Six Discussion PointsWhy agency growth stalls at the $1M–$2M mark—and why effort alone won’t fix itThe hidden cost of hurry, speed, and “getting through the list”Why leadership is about choosing, not clearingHow inbox habits reveal whether you’re managing or leadingThe role of presence, energy, and reflection in better decision-makingWhy leading yourself is the first step to leading othersThree Connection PointsAnchor Advisors – Brad’s home base and advisory workBrad Farris on LinkedInHow To Transform A Single Daily Theme Into An Everyday FocusBrad’s perspective reinforces something I’ve seen repeatedly: sustainable growth isn’t about squeezing more output from yourself or your team. It’s about creating the conditions where clarity, rest, and intention can do their work. This conversation is an invitation to slow down just enough to lead better.

PM Talks S3E1: Honesty

This episode is the first installment of Season 3 in our monthly PM Talks series, where Patrick Rhone and I slow things down to explore the ideas that quietly shape how we live and work. This time, we start with an act of honesty right out of the gate—being transparent about when the episode was recorded—and let that openness set the tone for everything that follows.From there, the conversation unfolds into something deeper. We talk about honesty not as a moral stance, but as a practical one—especially when it comes to time, commitments, and the stories we tell ourselves about why things don’t happen. January has a way of inviting big intentions, and this discussion is a timely reminder that clarity begins with truth.Six Discussion PointsWhy the hardest lies to spot are the ones we tell ourselvesThe difference between urgency and immediacy—and why it matters“I don’t have time” as a story, not a factHow calendars can act as commitments, not constraintsHonesty about capacity, energy, and personal rhythmsWhy knowing who you are (and aren’t) changes everythingThree Connection PointsPatrick's websiteThe Year Compass (mentioned as a reflection tool)Mike’s upcoming book, Productiveness.Honesty isn’t about being harsher with ourselves—it’s about being clearer. This conversation is an invitation to pause, notice, and tell better stories about what we can actually do with the time and energy we have.