559. Who Really Benefits from the Ceuta Migration Crisis?

Why did 50,000 people risk their lives in an attempt to cross the Morocco-Spain border? What do the pictures emerging from the enclave of Ceuta reveal about the bigger migration story? Why did right-wing figures across the world, from Donald Trump to Elon Musk and Giorgia Meloni, all weigh in?

Alastair and Rory are joined by immigration expert Gerald Knaus as they answer all these questions and more.

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