Episode 118: Saved by a Phone Call with Chris Ziegler

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In this deeply emotional and powerful episode, Heath and Josh sit down with their high school acquaintance, Chris Ziegler. Chris opens up about growing up in Temple, Texas, in a poor household on the east side of town, where he faced physical, mental, and sexual abuse at the hands of a family member. As he entered high school, the weight of his pain led him to attempt suicide—an act that was interrupted and ultimately prevented by a timely phone call from a football teammate.

Chris goes on to share his journey in the Navy, where he faced further physical and sexual abuse, and how those traumatic experiences compounded the struggles he already carried. He speaks candidly about the long-term mental toll of those years, the daily battle he continues to fight, and the role therapy has played in helping him process and begin to heal.

This is an episode about resilience, survival, and the ongoing struggle to find peace after trauma. Chris’s story is raw, heartbreaking, and inspiring, offering hope to others who may be fighting similar battles.

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