The Torah Didn’t Always Feel Like Mine | Lauren Nagel, Devora Pinson & Chana Arnold

In honor of Shavuos, three women — Lauren Nagel, Devora Pinson, and Chana Arnold — sit down for a raw and honest conversation about receiving the Torah anew in our adult lives.

What are some of the things that have disconnected us from the Torah over the years? What are some of the things that have softened those blockages? And in what ways has the Torah become the greatest gift of our lives?

If you connected to something that was shared in this episode, let our generous guests know:

Devora Pinson: DevoraRpinson@gmail.com

Lauren Nagel: LaurenRNagel@gmail.com

Chana Arnold: Chanaarnold1@gmail.com

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TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Sneak Peek

00:17 - Host's Intro

01:45 - Sponsorship Message: Finds by Rivka

03:03 - Meet the Guests: Devora, Chana, Lauren

05:18 - Spiritual Backgrounds

08:52 - I Needed More

12:10 - The Torah Feeds My Soul

16:34 - Choosing the Torah Again

17:50 - The Torah as a Tree of Life

19:58 - I Was Just Repeating What I Learned

22:55 - Real Learning Creates Space for Real Struggles

24:21 - Letting Go of Perfectionism

30:06 - I Lost Everything

32:28 - When I Began to Access Hashem

33:27 - Holding Pain & Faith Simultaneously

35:33 - I Am Not Alone

37:37 - A Real Relationship Welcomes Your Full Self

40:54 - What Do We Do With Our Freedom?

42:05 - The Torah Can't Be Done in Isolation

44:30 - I Skip to My Torah Classes

46:05 - From "I Have to" to "I Get To"

49:51 - Torah is an Overflowing Ocean

51:08 - Raising Kids with G-d Consciousness

54:01 - When You See the Light Shining in Other Women

54:37 - The Torah Shifted Me

56:22 - Investing in Our Relationship with G-d

58:24 - Shavuos as a Relationship Renewal

01:01:07 - Sharing Torah at the Table

01:01:44 - Beautifying Our Experience of the Torah

01:04:38 - Host's Outro