Assuming the middle-aged woman’s pose, clutching a litre of milk and a bag of rocket (with Val McDermid)

Taylor Swift, if you’re reading this (and you probably are), watch out - Jane is coming for your man! Jane and Jamal also discuss A-Level results, airport security, and p*cky b*ts.

Plus, Scottish crime writer Val McDermid discusses her upcoming Karen Pirie novel Silent Bones and shares her thoughts on the addition of that bum bag...

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