Episode 90: A Crash Course in the Israel – Palestine Conflict Part 2

Summary

In a Crash Course to the Israel-Palestine Conflict Part 1, Hillary, Amy, and guest David explained the terminology, the history of the Israel-Palestine Conflict, and the evidence showing how Israel has belonged to the Jewish people. In this episode, Hillary and Amy shift from history to the importance of why we stand by Israel. They clarify that supporting Israel doesn’t mean that the believer endorses every action, but that they stand by the nation and its people in solidarity with the covenant of God. They also debunk the idea that the New Testament church is a replacement for Israel, showing that God’s covenant with the Jewish people still stands today.

Next, they identify how college campus protests in support of Palestine are social-justice-focused in nature and completely shut down thoughtful discussion. Here, we listen to social media activists tell anyone who doesn’t support Palestine to be silent and support any method the “oppressed” (aka Hamas) use to achieve their goal of overthrowing Israel and establishing an Islamic theocracy. Parents are offered practical tips to help their children think well, identify faulty reasoning, and questions to discuss when they encounter activism.

Lastly, Hillary and Amy evaluate the question we’ve all wondered: Couldn’t Israel and Palestine work together as a two-party state? Here they go straight to the Hamas Covenant/Charter to show how dividing a cookie in half might work between toddlers, but dividing Palestine isn’t an option under Islamic-driven Hamas. This highlights the importance of understanding the stakes. This battle isn’t just about territory, it’s a spiritual battle playing out between God’s chosen people and those who wish to wipe them off the map.

Main Points Covered

• Why should Israel matter to Christians? Shouldn’t we stay out of politics for the sake of the gospel?
• What is happening on college campuses with all the youth protesting and supporting Palestine?
• Why can’t we negotiate a two-state solution?

People and Resources Mentioned

• • Jeremiah 31:35-37
  • Psalm 89:35-37
  • Romans 11:1-2, 11-12, 17-21, 24
    • 1 I ask, then, has God rejected his people? By no means! For I myself am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, a member of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God has not rejected his people whom he foreknew….
    • 11 So I ask, did they stumble in order that they might fall? By no means! Rather, through their trespass salvation has come to the Gentiles, so as to make Israel jealous. 12 Now if their trespass means riches for the world, and if their failure means riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their full inclusion mean!
    • 17if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root[c] of the olive tree, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you. 19 Then you will say, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” 20 That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but fear. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you.
    • 24 For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree.
  • 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17
  • Our episodes on Social Justice Part 1 | Part 2
  • The Mama Bear Apologetics Book
  • Instagram Video Referenced
  • 1967 Arab League Summit Document
  • Hamas Charter/Covenant

Unfamiliar Vocabulary

• Supersessionism (Replacement theology): Supersessionist theology argues that Christians have replaced Jews as the people of God, and often refers to a contested translation of Jeremiah 31:31—32 in Hebrews 8:8-9.
• Theocracy: A theocracy is a state that is governed by a government that derives its authority directly from a religion
• CORRECTION from Part 1: The Edomites were descendants of Esau.

Quotable Quotes

“Sometimes what kids think the problem is, it’s not about that problem. It’s a spiritual issue going on. There are two spirits at war, and we are caught in the middle.” – Hillary Morgan Ferrer

“What we are interested at looking at here isn’t necessarily what the average man is doing to the average man. It’s what the people in power think is fair and just and acceptable to do to the other nations.” – Hillary Morgan Ferrer

What we are interested at looking at here isn't necessarily what the average man is doing to the average man. It's what the people in power think is fair and just and acceptable to do to the other nations.
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“This is an apologetic issue for kids because when we look at God’s covenant and His promise, it proves and models His faithfulness.” – Amy Davison

This battle isn’t just about territory, it’s a spiritual battle playing out between God’s chosen people and those who wish to wipe them off the map.
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