Between earth and heaven: A journey on the Camino, part 1 (with Joe Ruff)

Our life is a journey between this world and the next. In this episode, we explore one of the world’s most iconic spiritual journeys — the Camino de Santiago. Our guest, Joe Ruff, recently walked 80 miles of the route with his brother, through the breathtaking paths of Portugal and Spain. It’s a story of movement, meaning, and the quiet transformation that happens with every step.

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