The Ancient Tool That’s Helping Churches Lead with Confidence in 2025

In today’s episode, we’re pulling wisdom from the past to solve one of the most pressing challenges of today: how to lead a church in a culture that’s spiritually curious—but deeply skeptical. You’ll discover why the Nicene Creed—yes, that ancient statement of faith—might be the most relevant discipleship tool for this cultural moment. We’ll unpack how to use it to build trust, foster spiritual resilience, and guide your church with clarity and confidence in a time of confusion.

We welcome Glenn Packiam, lead pastor of Rock Harbor Church in Costa Mesa, CA, to explore the question at the heart of his new book, What is a Christian Anyway? The conversation dives deep into the confusion and corruption that have shaped the perception of Christianity today, the power of the Nicene Creed to anchor believers, and how churches can effectively disciple in an age of skepticism.

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