At the end of the 13 show Baker’s Dozen, a run filled with jams, bustouts, debut covers, and zero repeats, Phish was awarded a banner to commemorate the event that would hang in the rafters of MSG among legendary sports achievements. And yet, like with the best moments in Phish history, the band didn’t simply sit back and admire their accomplishment, they used it to push themselves forward. Just as the Dick’s 2012 run inspired a return to jamming and setlist deconstruction, all of which built towards The Baker’s Dozen, the BD in turn has inspired Phish over the past five years to push through musical barriers, furthering their improvisational capabilities & pushing their music in ways no one thought possible.
In the Season Finale of Undermine S3 we assess what The Baker’s Dozen meant & how it inspired Phish to attack 2018 and 2019, while also laying the groundwork for one of the best years of their career - 2021. In conversations with fans and Phish thinkers alike, we explore the songwriting explosion that came out of The Baker’s Dozen, and the renewed approach to show structure now that they’d seen how impactful their jamming could be within a show.
Undermine is brought to you by Osiris Media. Executive Producers are Tom Marshall, RJ Bee, Brain Brinkman, Matt Dwyer, and Benjy Eisen. Produced and edited by Brian Brinkman. Mixed and Mastered by Matt Dwyer. It is written by Benjy Eisen. Production assistance from Rob Mitchum, Matt Bavuso, Christina Collins and Nick Cejas. Original Music by Amar Sastry. Art by Mark Dowd. Thank you to all our interviewees. We’ll see you next season.
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S4E33: 11/23/97 — Brian Brinkman
S4E32: 11/22/97 — Scott Bernstein
Bonus! 11/19/97 with Joel Cummins
S4E31: 11/21/97 — Craig Hillwig
S4E30: 11/19/97 — Andy Kahn
S4E29: 11/17/97 — Trey Anastasio
S4E28: 11/16/97 — Scott Galbraith
S4E27: 11/14/97 — Dom Deluca
S4E26: 11/13/97 — Drew Hitz + Charlie Dirksen
S4E25: 8/16/97 + 8/17/97 — Jim Pollock
S4E24: 8/10/97 — Rob Mitchum
S4E23: 7/1/97 +7/2/97 — Scott Marks
S4E22: 3/1/97 — Brad Sands
S4E21: 2/17/97 — Brian Brinkman
S4E20: 12/6/96 — Richard Gehr
S4E19: 10/31/96 — Gerald Gottesman
S4E18: 8/16-17/96 — Lars Fisk
S4E17: 12/31/95 — Drew Hitz
S4E16: 12/14/95 — David Steinberg
S4E15: 12/1/95 — Benjy Eisen
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