Ria Lina: Noordwijk, The Netherlands

Comedian Ria Lina presents Shaun with flat white beaches, tulip fields and untouchable cycling seagulls. And you get there on the train. Shaun is happy about that (relatively speaking) and also about having a go at canal pole-jumping. Resident geographer, historian and comedian Iszi Lawrence is happy about chocolate sprinkles on buttery bread for breakfast.

Your Place Or Mine is the travel podcast that isn’t going anywhere. Join Shaun as his guests try to convince him that it’s worth getting up off the sofa and seeing the world, giving us a personal guide to their favourite place on the planet.

Producers: Sarah Goodman and Beth O'Dea

Your Place or Mine is a BBC Audio production for BBC Radio 4 and BBC Sounds.