SummaryIn this conversation, Tim and April discuss the recent events involving Josh Howerton and Mark Driscoll. They talk about Josh's apology and the similarities between his apology and another pastor's apology. They also discuss Mark's controversial remarks at the Stronger Men's Conference and his use of the Jezebel spirit trope. The conversation delves into the problematic nature of these actions and the reactions from the audience and online community. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss...
Summary
In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the recent events involving Josh Howerton and Mark Driscoll. They talk about Josh's apology and the similarities between his apology and another pastor's apology. They also discuss Mark's controversial remarks at the Stronger Men's Conference and his use of the Jezebel spirit trope. The conversation delves into the problematic nature of these actions and the reactions from the audience and online community. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the recent controversy surrounding Mark Driscoll and his involvement in the Stronger Men's Conference. They explore the dynamics of the charismatic world and its tendency to look for demons everywhere, as well as the intersection of Christian nationalism and charismatic beliefs. They also highlight the lack of accountability and the documented legacy of abuse associated with Mark Driscoll. The conversation touches on the internalized misogyny within evangelical circles and the problematic views on women's modesty. They conclude by discussing the recent developments involving John Lindell and his call for Mark Driscoll to repent.
Takeaways
Apologies should be genuine and not copied from others
Using the Jezebel spirit trope is sexist and misogynistic
Mark Driscoll's actions and remarks are calculated and attention-seeking
The reactions from the audience and online community reveal the problematic nature of these actions. The charismatic world is often primed to look for demons everywhere, and this tendency is amplified when combined with Christian nationalist beliefs.
Mark Driscoll has a history of abuse and a lack of accountability, yet he continues to gain a following and promote his new book.
There is a prevalent issue of internalized misogyny within evangelical circles, with many women defending Mark Driscoll despite his problematic views and treatment of women.
John Lindell has called out Mark Driscoll for his actions and has received death threats as a result.
The concept of 'modesty' in evangelical circles is often misused and places the burden on women to manage men's thoughts and actions.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Setting
07:07 Josh Howerton's Apology and Plagiarism
31:26 Mark's Calculated Actions and Reactions
43:04 John Lindell's Call for Mark Driscoll to Repent
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