Inside ’Kona Blue,’ the alleged Lockheed-to-DHS UFO transfer | Reality Check

In this episode of "Reality Check," Ross Coulthart sits down with a UAP researcher known online as "UAP Gerb.” Picking up where Part 1 left off, they dig into the "Immaculate Constellation" document and whistleblower Matthew Brown's claims about nonhuman and reproduction vehicle data. Gerb walks through "Kona Blue," an alleged DHS-brokered program in which Lockheed Martin material was reportedly diverted before the CIA shut it down.

Coulthart presses the national security case for controlled disclosure, while Gerb raises troubling allegations: directed-energy attacks on people close to the program, civilian aircraft allegedly downed by EMP weapons during craft-recovery operations and an alleged murder. They close on whether President Trump or Congress can force real transparency.

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CREDITS:

Host: Ross Coulthart

Executive Producer: Andy Gipson

Editorial Producer: Meagan Medick

Segment Producer: Christine Jenkinson, Will Tomasi

Research Producer: Rob Jones

Editor: Kanyon Lyons

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CHAPTER SUMMARY:

:00 Intro

:38 Immaculate constellation

3:08 Attempts at controlled disclosure

4:25 Project Kona Blue

7:18 Limited disclosure campaigns

9:16 Government agreements with NHI?

9:41 Agreements with foreign adversaries

11:22 Schism in the UAP community

12:08 Modern legacy program gaps

13:19 Has the U.S. achieved anti-gravity?

15:15 Arguments for secrecy

17:00 FFRDCs, U-Arcs, and GOCOs

20:13 Risk of catastrophic disclosure

20:44 Has the U.S. achieved ‘In planet flight mode’?

21:14 Could previously reported sightings actually be U.S. reverse engineered craft?

26:42 Gatekeeping within the legacy program

28:54 Is the legacy program a ‘deep state’?

30:57 Gerb makes a prediction about future disclosure drops

31:53 Should legacy program employees be given amnesty?

32:55 Have directed energy weapons been used on potential whistleblowers?

34:18 Allegations of the downing civilian aircrafts

35:55 ‘Blue on blue’ kinetic strikes

37:37 Congressional efforts on disclosure

38:30 Will Trump be a disclosure president?

41:15 Final thoughts