10. Kobna Holdbrook-Smith: “... If it’s not practical it’s not spiritual…”

“You cannot expect to experience grace except through other people…” Actor Kobna Holdbrook-Smith - Wonka, (2023), Mary Poppins Returns (2018), Zack Snyder's Justice League (2021) and Doctor Strange (2016) - joins Azariah France-Williams and Winnie Varghese to talk God “… what can be more complex than the concept of the divine…” race, “... you learn very quickly to listen and adapt to your surroundings…” Plus the challenge of the peacock and the priest “… every actor imagines themselves to be the priest – the conduit for artistic excellence… the truth and character and story… but what it denies is this peacock… ” Lively conversation digging deep into faith, moving towards the good, being subject to joy... and living in the "as if...".