Invest Like the Best with Patrick O’Shaughnessy
Business:Investing
My guests today are Scott Davis and Rob Wertheimer. Scott and Rob head up Melius Research and are the authors of a great book called Lessons from the Titans. The book explains what the industrial giants of old can teach the new generation of high-growth businesses about how to survive and deliver shareholder value over multiple decades. Drawing on their experience as industrials analysts, they present case studies on businesses like Danaher, Roper, Honeywell, Boeing and GE to reveal both what does and doesn’t work when it comes to capital allocation and business strategy as a company enters a more mature phase in its lifecycle. Please enjoy my conversation with Scott and Rob.
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Show Notes
(00:03:20) - (First question) - The intersection between the current tech sector drawdown and the historical track record of industrial titans
(00:07:10) - The most common ways they see companies start to fail and the types of errors they commit
(00:11:01) - The best historical examples of companies that have gone from non-operational excellence to operational excellence
(00:15:04) - Teaching the value of a business system and installing one for longevity
(00:24:06) - Questions they’d ask and points of evaluation to uncover the health of a business
(00:31:19) - Thinking about sustainable value creation in a lower growth environment
(00:37:04) - Lessons from operating leverage and the rental industry
(00:39:11) - Ways industrial companies have handled growth CapEx well and badly
(00:43:52) - The line between discovering the future in a lab versus major pivots in reality while trying to solve today’s problems
(00:49:37) - How the best managers nurture a great shareholder base
(00:55:35) - Lessons to learn about business model transitions
(01:00:13) - Further important messages from their book that businesses would benefit from
(01:04:30) - The kindest things anyone has ever done for them
Chuck Akre - The Three Legged Stool - [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]
Alex Telford - Unlocking Innovation in Pharma - [Invest Like the Best, EP.360]
Madhavan Ramanujam - How to Price Products - [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]
Daryl Morey - Systems Thinking in Sports - [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]
Michael Ovitz - Knowledge Is Power - [Invest Like the Best, EP.359]
Erik Serrano - Investing in Investment Firms - [Invest Like the Best, EP.358]
Doug Leone - Lessons from a Titan - [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]
Justin Ishbia - Lessons from Acquiring 586 Companies - [Invest Like the Best, EP.357]
Gavin Uberti - Real-Time AI & The Future of AI Hardware - [Invest Like the Best, EP.356]
A Conversation with Charlie Munger & John Collison - [Invest Like the Best, EP.355]
Peter Fenton & Victor Lazarte - Purpose and Partnership - [Invest Like the Best, EP.354]
Lior Susan - Leave the World Better than You Found It - [Invest Like the Best, EP.353]
Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, EP.352]
Elizabeth Zalman & Jerry Neumann - Founder vs Investor - [Invest Like the Best, EP.351]
Palmer Luckey - Inventing the Future of Defense - [Invest Like the Best, EP.350]
Aswath Damodaran - Making Sense of the Market Pt. 2 - [Invest Like the Best, EP.349]
Patrick Collison & John Collison - A Business State of Mind - [Invest Like the Best, EP.348]
Strauss Zelnick - Playing to Your Strengths - [Invest Like the Best, EP.347]
Rick Buhrman & Paul Buser - Find Your X, Nurture Your N - [Invest Like the Best, EP.346]
Jack Altman & Miles Grimshaw - Building and Investing in Lattice - [Invest Like the Best, EP.345]
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