As pastors and ministry leaders, how do we address in a healthy way, our own feelings of regret, pain, shame, even our feelings of being a hypocrite, because we know where we fall short, while others are placing us on a pedestal? In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye is joined by Scott Sauls, pastor of Christ Presbyterian Church in Nashville, Tennessee. Scott has written six books, including his latest, Beautiful People Don't Just Happen. Together, Scott and Jason...
As pastors and ministry leaders, how do we address in a healthy way, our own feelings of regret, pain, shame, even our feelings of being a hypocrite, because we know where we fall short, while others are placing us on a pedestal? In this week's conversation on FrontStage BackStage, host Jason Daye is joined by Scott Sauls, pastor of Christ Presbyterian Church in Nashville, Tennessee. Scott has written six books, including his latest, Beautiful People Don't Just Happen. Together, Scott and Jason look at our tendency to emphasize the positive while minimizing the pain and suffering in our own lives and ministry, even though it's in those places where God does His most transformative work. Scott also shares some of his personal struggles with anxiety and depression as a pastor, and what God has taught him through those experiences.
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Some key takeaways from this conversation:
Scott Sauls on acknowledging the reality that ministry is challenging: "The job that we've been called to do is one that assumes we're going to be under attack at all times, because the enemy of our soul is also the enemy of what we're trying to do as we participate in the work of Jesus on the front lines of ministry."
Scott Sauls on the importance of having relationships where we can be ministered to: "I highly recommend, you know, a professional safe space where you don't have to be the pro. That's the challenge for pastors is, wherever we show up, you know, you can't blame people, but they, they look at us, you know, they expect us to be the most... together person in the room, even when we're kind of falling apart and, and on the inside. And so we need a place where we can show up and the arrangement is understood by everybody that we are actually the weakest person in the room and need tending and ministering to. "
Scott Sauls on 21st-century cancel culture and ministry: "There's also freedom in failing, you know. 21st-century cancel culture doesn't allow pastors to fail, but the Bible does. I mean I wonder how long, you know, King David would have lasted in the current climate. I wonder if there would have been any possibility of redemption of His ministry."
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