#415 - “There Were 23 of Us” Area 51 Officer Finally Comes Clean | TD Barnes

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TD Barnes is a former field engineer at NASA who also served in Special Projects at Area 51. His engineering work extended to the X-15, XB-70, lifting bodies, and lunar landing vehicles, as well as NASA's NERVA nuclear rocket project at Jackass Flats, Nevada.

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OUTLINE

00:00 - Tracking high-speed aircraft for NASA

05:01 - Newly declassified 1960s CIA projects

07:38 - CIA operated Area 51 in secret for 20 years

13:48 - Operation Northwoods

16:50 - Attempts to assassinate Fidel Castro

19:58 - Getting recruited to work at Area 51

29:53 - Aircraft tests at Area 51

36:47 - Early days of Area 51 mystery

46:26 - Sheep dipping CIA recruitment tactic

51:24 - What we're still using U2 aircraft for

54:20 - Origin of UFO myths at Area 51

57:47 - Why Bob Lazar's Area 51 story can't be real

01:01:31 - Truth about S4 "Site 4"

01:02:45 - Annie Jacobsen is persona non grata

01:09:09 - Pilot reports of UAPs

01:17:28 - Plasma, anti-gravity & acoustic radar

01:21:26 - TD doesn't believe in non-human entities

01:31:16 - ECMs and ECCMs

01:38:07 - TD's work with the DIA

01:39:59 - Project Redlight

01:44:01 - Where the new "Area 51" is located

01:46:19 - The X-15 program

01:53:29 - Radiation exposure at Area 51

02:02:57 - Atmospheric EMP tests

02:08:16 - Nuclear sites shut down by UAPs

02:11:55 - "AI scares me to death"

02:16:49 - CIA's battle with Air Force & NASA

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