Sabine Hossenfelder vs. Bernardo Kastrup: Superdeterminism Debate

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0:00 Introduction
4:16 Superdeterminism overview
8:31 Bernardo's agreements / disagreements
13:15 Violating statistical independence (SI)
15:59 Hidden variables in Superdeterminism
18:20 Is statistical independence a mere assumption?
22:41 Is Superdeterminism falsifiable?
31:17 Criticism of proposed experiments
38:35 Does experiment change the outcome measured?
44:57 Decoherence and the observer
49:22 Consciousness is irrelevant in QM
52:37 Why oppose violating SI?
55:57 No good reason to depart with SI
59:10 Holding Sabine to higher standards than Bell?
1:01:31 Definition of measurement
1:02:22 [Pais] Unification via "Super Force"
1:05:18 "Without thought, there is no science"
1:07:22 Falsifying idealism
1:13:20 Upcoming Salvatore Pais interview

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