Craig Hogan and Roberta Grimes Talk About How Consciousness Apparently Works

Roberta’s dear friend, Dr. R. Craig Hogan, was our first guest on this podcast more than a decade ago, and this is his forty-seventh visit with us on Seek Reality. He has been our guest faithfully, about every three months, ever since this program started. And we always try to talk about something different! So this time, we think we are going to begin at least by talking about something that should by now be common knowledge. But because mainstream materialist science still doesn’t get consciousness at all, sadly what the father of quantum mechanics, Dr. Max Planck, discovered a full century ago, the amazing fact that what we experience as human consciousness, or awareness, in fact underlies everything, still is not acknowledged by materialist scientists, even today! You likely find it hard to believe that maximally educated people who do physics for a living have not yet caught up to someone like Roberta Grimes, who never got beyond high school Algebra II. But so it still is.  Let’s hear a few stellar quotations from Dr. Max Planck himself. In 1931 Max Planck said, “I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness.” And he said in 1944, “As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear-headed science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about atoms this much: There is no matter as such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter.” So today, Craig and Roberta very enjoyably talk about how their study of afterlife science has helped them to understand how consciousness underlies all of reality.

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