408. Synthetic Text Extruder Hype (ft. Emily Bender, Alex Hanna)
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408. Synthetic Text Extruder Hype (ft. Emily Bender, Alex Hanna)

2025-06-04
We chat with Emily Bender and Alex Hanna — authors of AI Con: How to Fight Big Tech’s Hype and Create the Future We Want — and pierce the veil of hype by getting into how these systems actually work and, importantly, the work they cannot do despite claims by boosters and doomers alike. Think of datasets like ImageNet or LAION-5B as big vats of pink slime and LLMs like ChatGPT as “synthetic text extruding machines” that turn pink slime into nuggets of text. It’s easy to forget that these magic...
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