Trimmings are for life, not just for Christmas

Fi is gazing into the middle distance, while Jane reminisces over her long lost German homestay.

Award-winning children's writers Nadia Shireen and Frank Cottrell-Boyce join Jane and Fi to talk about their new podcast 'The Island of Brilliant'.

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Assistant Producer: Kate Lee

Times Radio Producer: Rosie Cutler

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