Episode 2115: Dmitri Alperovitch on how America can beat China in the Second Cold War

Amongst the most bizarro thing about last week’s truly bizarre Presidential debate was how much Biden and Trump were in violent agreement on China. Trump certainly has won the ideological battle about the supposedly existential China threat and the two decrepit old men both celebrate American embroilment in a second Cold War. This is great news , of course, for the America’s sprawling military industrial complex with its unquenchable thirst for rearmament and military engagement overseas. I’m not sure that the DC based Dmitri Alperovitch is a card carrying member of that establishment, but he’s certainly a slick China hawk who fears that the world is on the brink of a major conflict over Taiwan with Xi’s supposedly “Marxist-Leninist” regime. Maybe, maybe not. But talking to him about “winning” what he calls the “Cold War II” is a surreal throwback to a Fifties paranoia about the supposed existential threat of the Marxist-Leninist Soviet Union. America “won” the first Cold War; I doubt it can afford to win the second.

Dmitri Alperovitch is an internationally recognized thought leader on geopolitics and national security and co-founder and executive chairman of Silverado Policy Accelerator, a think-tank focused on policy solutions in national security, trade and industrial security, and ecological and economic security.  He is also the former CTO of the cybersecurity company CrowdStrike Inc. Alperovitch serves on the Homeland Security Advisory Council of the Department of Homeland Security and as a founding board member of US Government’s Cyber Safety Review Board, and has previously served as a special advisor to the Department of Defense. He is the host of Silverado’s “Geopolitics Decanted” podcast.

Named as one of the "100 most connected men" by GQ magazine, Andrew Keen is amongst the world's best known broadcasters and commentators. In addition to presenting KEEN ON, he is the host of the long-running How To Fix Democracy show. He is also the author of four prescient books about digital technology: CULT OF THE AMATEUR, DIGITAL VERTIGO, THE INTERNET IS NOT THE ANSWER and HOW TO FIX THE FUTURE. Andrew lives in San Francisco, is married to Cassandra Knight, Google's VP of Litigation & Discovery, and has two grown children.

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