Drew & Natalie Have A Normal Conversation, Episode 17: Grandma Hobbies

We talk about why “grandma hobbies” isn’t so much a trend as something you might want to do as a matter of being alive in the same way other human beings are alive. We also dig into one man’s near-death Jesus-based experience, incels, the wheel of reincarnation, the “slippery slope,” kompromat, Spotify, arts and crafts, and why Amazon sells counterfeit soap.

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