It's been more than a year since the first contact tracing and exposure notification apps for the novel coronavirus have appeared, and the apps have not at all lived up to the hype. In fact, they've almost invariably stumbled or not really worked at all. Jacob Schulz sat down with Alan Rozenshtein, associate professor of law at the University of Minnesota School of Law and a senior editor at Lawfare, and Susan Landau, a computer science professor at Tufts and a senior contributor for Lawfare, to talk about digital disease surveillance during the COVID-19 pandemic. What went wrong, and what are the lessons to be learned?
Support Lawfare through Patreon to get access to our ad-free podcast feed and other exclusive content.
See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
Chatter: Nuclear Launch Authority in Myth and Reality, with Hans Kristensen
Protecting Civilians in Gaza and Beyond with Marc Garlasco and Emily Tripp
Chimène Keitner on South Africa, Israel, and the Genocide Convention
Greg Johnsen and Scott Anderson on the Fight Against the Houthis
Lawfare Archive: What Happens When We Don’t Believe the President’s Oath?
Rational Security: The “Courtroom Drama” Edition
Trump's Trials and Tribulations: The 14th Amendment Goes to the Supreme Court
Lawfare Archive: Gregory Johnsen Answers "What is a Houthi?"
Trump’s Civil Fraud Trial
Chatter: “The Day After” and Dad with A. B. Stoddard
Yuval Shany and Amichai Cohen on the Israeli Supreme Court's Bombshell
Debriefing on the Presidential Immunity Argument at the D.C. Circuit
Michael Gottlieb on that Giant Judgment Against Rudy Giuliani
Presidential Immunity at the D.C. Circuit
Rational Security: The “Dry January” Edition
Trump’s Trials and Tribulations: A New Year's Update
Lawfare Archive: The War in Yemen (and Congress’s Response)
The Marshall Islands’ Sweeping Climate Adaptation Plan with Jake Bittle
Chatter: Lessons from the Decade of Mass Protests, with Vincent Bevins
Israel, Gaza, and the Law of War
Create your
podcast in
minutes
It is Free
Rational Security
It’s Complicated
Deep State Radio
Stay Tuned with Preet
Fast Politics with Molly Jong-Fast