Nurturing Conditions for Change with Scott Williams and Morag Gamble

It is my absolute pleasure to welcome my friend, Scott Williams, UN Advisor, author, marathon runner, Warm Data host and explorer of right relationship to the Sense-making in a Changing World Show.

Scott is a fellow Australian who is based in Geneva, Switzerland.  He is fully immersed in the world of nurturing transformational and regenerative development addressing the biggest issues of our time, right in the heart of global governance. He holds a deep understanding of how the UN and global monetary systems work, and is part of high level working and advisory groups.

Recently during a Warm Data conversation he mentioned the structural global monetary inequities at play that effect the majority world. Because for decades I have been actively involved in community-based work in the Global South, including refugee settlements,  I was intrigued to find out more. I am grateful to Scott for taking the time to explain the global economic system to me, and explore ways of nurturing the conditions for the kind of change we need in the world today.

To bring balance into his world, Scott spends a lot of time in nature, and runs (a lot!!). He has run more than 80 marathons and ultra-marathons. But he also loves to slow down and spend time at his local community garden growing food. We are both Warm Data (online People Need People) hosts. Recently Scott led the global Zero-Step Warm Data Prototype Sprint as part of the UNDP High-Level Energy talks and the10,000 Communities project of the Club of Rome . I was one of the pod leaders in this, with my daughter.  Actually, we both have daughters called Maia, who meet regularly in youth Warm Data conversations.

Next time we meet, we are going to turn the tables, and Scott is going to interview me about permaculture. I look forward to that.

Watch the youtube conversation here.

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