Sam Altman - How to Make an Abundant Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.484]

2026-07-28

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My guest today is Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI. It's a conversation spanning the history, present, and future of OpenAI, from the origin of ChatGPT through Codex, hardware, and their new Jalapeno chip. We discuss the early decision to buy compute at a scale nobody thought was rational, and the plan to build a gigawatt of new capacity every week. We talk about Kimi and distillation, the Hugging Face incident and what it means for the pace of AI development, and what it's like to raise kids who will grow up never knowing a world without abundant intelligence. Please enjoy my conversation...

My guest today is Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI.

It's a conversation spanning the history, present, and future of OpenAI, from the origin of ChatGPT through Codex, hardware, and their new Jalapeno chip.

We discuss the early decision to buy compute at a scale nobody thought was rational, and the plan to build a gigawatt of new capacity every week.

We talk about Kimi and distillation, the Hugging Face incident and what it means for the pace of AI development, and what it's like to raise kids who will grow up never knowing a world without abundant intelligence.

Please enjoy my conversation with Sam Altman.

For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

Timestamps:

(00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like The Best

(00:02:02) Intro: Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI

(00:02:35) Refocusing

(00:05:43) OpenAI’s Compute Bets

(00:09:07) Data Centers

(00:11:14) Jalapeno Chip

(00:11:52) Kimi, Distillation & Open Source

(00:14:39) The Hugging Face Incident

(00:17:46) OpenAI's Mission & Vision