Episode 476: Twenty One Minutes with Peter Watts

Ten minutes with... is a special series presented by Coode Street that sees readers and booklovers from around the world talk about what they're reading right now and what's getting them through these difficult times.

With the Ten Minutes with... series complete as a daily thing, Jonathan fires up the computer and calls Hugo and Shirley Jackson award winner Peter Watts to discuss how this apocalypse is only a tiny taste of the real thing, how he's coping with working and reading right now, Jevon's Paradox, the value of depressive realism, and a lot more.

Books mentioned include:

• Peter Watts is an Angry, Sentient Tumor by Peter Watts
• "Incorruptible" by Peter Watts 
• Stealing Worlds by Karl Schroeder
• Gamechanger by L.X. Beckett