Episode #46 | Martin Lassen-Vernal & Louise Harder Fischer | A negotiated - not just automated - future

In this episode of The Only Constant, Lasse Rindom sits down with Martin Lassen-Vernal from the City of Copenhagen and Louise Harder Fischer from the IT University of Copenhagen to explore their newly developed methodology for AI adoption: STAIR – Socio-Technical AI Reflection. Their discussion dives deep into how organizations can integrate generative AI while maintaining human values, productivity, and well-being. Here's a quick breakdown of of topics covered in their discussion:

• The eight core principles of STAIR and why they matter for AI adoption
• The tension between productivity gains and the social impact of AI in workplaces
• Why AI shouldn’t just adapt to us—we should make demands of it
• How organizations can foster meaningful discussions around AI without stifling innovation
• The challenge of navigating AI hype, governance, and ethical concerns

With a mix of critical reflection, real-world implementation, and a few unexpected detours (including the surprising lessons from Denmark’s first webcam experiment), this episode is a must-listen for anyone navigating AI’s role in the modern workplace.

Do you want to know more about Martin Lassen-Vernal?
Martin Lassen-Vernal is a prominent Danish communications professional currently serving as the Head of Communications at the Technical and Environmental Administration in the City of Copenhagen. With over 25 years of experience in public sector communication, he has held leadership roles in organizations like the Capital Region of Denmark and the Danish Institute for Human Rights. His professional expertise spans public relations, digital transformation, and strategic communication.
A recognized expert in generative AI's application in communications, Lassen-Vernal has been actively exploring how artificial intelligence can reshape organizational communication strategies. He holds a Master's degree in Communication and Media Studies from the University of Copenhagen and is known for his innovative yet cautious approach to integrating AI technologies. As a thought leader, he frequently speaks at conferences and shares insights on LinkedIn about the intersection of technology, communication, and organizational change.

Do you want to know more about Louise Harder Fischer?
Louise Harder Fischer holds a PhD and is an Associate Professor at the IT University of Copenhagen, where she also serves as the Program Director for the MSc in Digital Innovation & Management. Her research focuses on sociotechnical changes, particularly in relation to artificial intelligence and digital work. Louise is deeply engaged in understanding how AI impacts work processes and knowledge work, as well as how to ensure the responsible and sustainable integration of AI in organizations. She has developed methods that help balance technology with well-being and meaningfulness in the workplace and is actively involved in both academic and professional networks.