As we continue our Best of series, we wanted to highlight a very timely conversation. Gordon MacDonald—author, longtime pastor, and former Chancellor of Denver Seminary—joins us to share hard-won wisdom on calling, mentoring, and spiritual friendship.
Gordon’s voice has shaped generations of leaders, and this episode captures why. Through stories, insights, and honest reflection, he gives leaders a practical roadmap for building resilient lives and ministries that last.
Whether you’re a pastor, organizational leader, or simply someone seeking deeper impact, this conversation offers clarity, perspective, and hope.
What You’ll LearnWhy spiritual friendship is essential for healthy leadership
How to cultivate intergenerational mentoring relationships
The stages of a leader’s calling—and how they develop over a lifetime
Why older leaders must invest in younger leaders
How to build communities that encourage resilience rather than burnout
The hidden dangers leaders face in midlife and beyond
What Gordon wishes every leader understood about marriage, family, and calling
Gordon MacDonald is a pastor, author of more than a dozen books, and the former Chancellor of Denver Seminary. For over 40 years, he has invested in leaders across the world through writing, preaching, mentoring, and spiritual formation work. His books Ordering Your Private World and Building Below the Waterline remain foundational leadership resources.
Timestamps00:00 — Introduction
02:45 — Gordon’s early calling and formation
07:10 — The mentors who shaped him
12:40 — Why intergenerational friendship matters
18:25 — The role of spiritual friendship in leadership
24:55 — Healthy vs unhealthy leadership communities
31:20 — Calling after 60: why most leaders miss it
38:15 — Marriage, family, and the real “Lord’s work”
45:40 — What the next generation needs from older leaders
52:10 — Gordon’s challenge to leaders today
57:55 — Final thoughts
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