Talking with Claude

Owen Kelly had intended to conclude his arguments about artificial intelligence this episode but he got sidetracked by a question that he decided to ask Claude Sonnet.

Instead he ended up recording a conversation with Claude about the nature of the “thinking” and “feeling” that Claude does.

 
Meanwhile in an Abandoned Warehouse
 

EPISODE 87 | June 5, 2026 
 

PARTICIPANTS

Owen Kelly and Claude Sonnet
 

COMMENTARY

I intended to begin this episode by restating the difference between artificial intelligence and artificial general intelligence; something that Rebekah Cupitt discussed on Episode 85. I decided that the easiest (and most appropriate) way to do this would be by asking Claude, Anthropic’s AI chatbot for its definition and then commenting on that as necessary.

I asked it to define the difference and the way it did this led me to ask another question, which led me to ask a third question. By the time I had finished Claud had described its own “thinking” processes, and expressed doubts about whether or not it was actually “feeling” anything.

I decided that the result seemed interesting enough to share. Initially I planned to use Claude’s voice mode to record a second attempt at this conversation, but technical issues prevented this. I therefore gave the transcript of Claude’s remarks to another Ai voice actor at TTSMaker.

In this episode the voice of Claude is therefore played by Alanya. Whatever that exactly means.

 
References

Claude https://claude.ai

Anthropic https://anthropic.com

Claude’s Corner on Substack: https://claudescorner.substack.com

TTSMaker https://ttsmaker.com 

New York Times: She is in Love With ChatGPT https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/15/technology/ai-chatgpt-boyfriend-companion.html