Laughter, failure, and being a professional idiot w/ Jon and Lorna

In this exchange with professional funny people Lorna Rose Treen and Jonathan Oldfield we talk about laughter, failure and being an idiot. We also talk about the meaning of success and the stories we tell ourselves to deal with uncertainty and not knowing.

Listen to Jon and Lorna on BBC's new podcast Time of the Week!
Follow them @jonathanoldfield_ and @instalorns