How To Get Refs To Like You ft. Renee Marcellus

We have always tried to get different perspectives/roles on the podcast, so we decided to bring on our favorite ref Renee Marcellus! She has been reffing us since we were 12 years old and has been traveling the wold for international and national events ever since. BTW Joe and Micah are setters so they asked for a lot of tips on how to get their arguments through to refs haha. Typical setters...