Abi Roberts - Arrested for Swearing, Police Overreach and the COVID Inquiry Whitewash

Show notes and Transcript

Arrested for swearing? Yes. 
This is what happened to Abi Roberts as she protested outside the COVID Inquiry in London. 
Abi returns to Hearts of Oak to discuss exactly what happened. 
Why did she feel compelled to protest outside the COVID Inquiry and will it reveal anything or is it just another cover up? 
Under what law did the police officer arrest her? 
What powers do our police now have in the UK and is this the end of any free speech?
Is swearing actually now prohibited or is it just illegal for Welsh comedians?
Can we regain our freedom of speech or has this so called 'Conservative' government destroyed it? 
Tune in for Abi's analysis following her unexpected night in the cells. 
*Might contain swearing! 

Abi Roberts is a British stand-up comedian, writer and commentator and is proud to be a stone in the shoe of the cowardly bauble-chasers in politics and the media.
All lovers of truth, liberty, free speech and the pursuit of justice for the crimes committed over the last three years, are welcome to her party.
Abi became a professional stand-up in 2012, and since then has played some of the biggest clubs across the UK, and had several sold-out shows at the Edinburgh Festival Fringe. 
She became a comedian because she wanted to write her own material and have the freedom to express her worldview – and make thousands of people laugh at the absurdity and wonder of life.  Abi’s stand up show Anglichanka, which was about living and studying in Russia, gained her several 5 star rave reviews and the show toured the UK. 
She was the first comedian to do shows in Moscow in both English and Russian, as Abi explains “My father was a spy… sorry, diplomat, so I went to the Soviet Union as a kid and then in the early 1990s I studied opera at the Moscow Conservatoire"
Abi hosts a daily podcast and writes regular articles on her Substack.  

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Interview recorded 21.7.23

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Transcript

(Hearts of Oak)
Hello, Hearts of Oak, and welcome to another interview coming up with Abi Roberts, who re-joined us.
Been a while since she was last with us.
And of course, I know many of you will have seen the video of her being arrested for swearing.
So she just tells us what she was there for, the Covid inquiry, which is in effect a whitewash, a little spoiler for you.
She discusses what was happening there, why she was there at the whole yellow board, what that's about.
And then the police telling her she'd be arrested if she swore again.
So she did. And she was arrested. How the police have the right to arrest anyone, we look at the legislation and the overreach they now have.
She was held in a cell until the middle of the night, then released.
Why on earth that would be done? So join us as Abi shares her story in her unique style.

Abi Roberts, it is wonderful to have you back. Thank you so much for joining us today.

(Abi Roberts)

It's my pleasure, Peter, my pleasure. A lot's happened since I last saw you.

Lots. We're going to talk about Abi's campaign to make swearing legal again.
So we'll get into all of that. For the viewers @AbiRoberts on social media, on Twitter, everywhere else, and her Substack, abiroberts.substack.com.
If you don't get that, actually, just if you never signed up simply just to read her article, I think that's a great article on what happened to her as she swore and was arrested.
It's a fantastic article, it lays it all out.
So it's well worth signing up Substack for that, and then you'll see everything else.
But can we start, Abi?
I'm going to play one of the video clips that sets the scene and then we'll discuss why we're there, and how in their swearing is not illegal on the streets of Britain.
So let's play this two minute clip.

(Video plays)

Police: 

You are perfectly allowed to protest, you are not allowed to swear in the street.

Abi: 

I'm not allowed to swear in the street? It's OK if our government commits democide, cos' that's what's happened.

So you're saying to me, swearing in the street is worse, is illegal, but it's legal to lock people in their homes, and give them, coerce them, you know I'm telling the truth.

Police: 

Madam, here's your warning.

Abi: 

Have you been coerced? 

Police: 

Swear again you're going to get arrested.

Abi: 

Swear again? Well fuck... fuck you. 

Police: 

You are under arrest for swearing  

Abi: 

You are joking, you are joking, you are joking.
You've seen this and you're all complicit.
You know and you're going to call me an anti-vaxxer.
I'm anti-tyranny, I'm anti-democide. You absolute bastards.
You're arresting me for swearing, but you're not talking about democide that's been committed against the British people, lockdowns, gene therapies, how dare you.
You're getting all this guys, this is Britain, this is United Kingdom.
If you're not angry, there's something wrong with you. There's something wrong with you.

Police: 

Can you stop swearing? 

Abi: 

If I stop swearing, am I allowed to talk about democide?
Am I allowed to talk about crimes against the British people?
Do you agree with the lockdowns?
Do you agree that the British people, they knew that thousands, hundreds of thousands of people were going to die.
They knew at the very beginning that the lockdowns were going to kill thousands and thousands of people.
Are you getting this? Are you recording any of this? 

Police: 

Listen to me.

Abi: 

So you agree the British government...

Police: 

I'm not getting into that.

Abi: 

And all the politicians were against the British people?

Police: 

We can have a conversation.

Abi: 

Can we? 

Police: 

Yeah. All we wanted you to do was stay on that side of the road.

Abi: 

Are you getting this? I'm being arrested for swearing.

Police: 

Just listen to what he's saying. 

Abi: 

I am listening. This is the UK! How dare you!

(video ends)

So, that's Abi in full flow. 

Good grief. You know what, Peter? I don't think I've seen that in full.
I'm actually, I feel quite, do you know what? I'm going to say it.
I feel damn proud of myself.
If only there were more people that told it how it is. 

100%.

When, you know what I mean? And it's weird. I feel good. God, I've got kind of goose bumps because obviously it was all just happening kind of in the moment.
And, but wow, it's weird, you know, it's almost like a lot of the, like a lot of the stuff I've been doing for two and a half, three years has led to that moment, if that doesn't sound too, like, I have a dream, you know, it's like one of those things where you, you prepare for these things all your life, in little ways, you know, saying, saying what you mean, what you feel, without being afraid, and truth.
It's weird, pure truth, when you speak it to power, has a way of cutting through any fear that you may have. I didn't feel, I don't know if you saw in the clip, I didn't feel, looking back at that now, I didn't feel afraid at all of the consequences, you know? 

Well, let's, so there are two issues here. One is the issue itself, which is the the COVID inquiry whitewash, they should have just just given it a full title. And the second issue is police overreach.
Maybe let's start at the first one. Why were you there that fateful day, Abi?

That fateful day on the grassy knoll, which I mentioned in my article because it was a little grassy bank where all the the photographers and well, I've got a new collective noun for journalists.
It's a shame of journalists.
I don't include some people, including yourself. There are some people that stay out of that collective noun, but let's be honest, most journalists are a shame.
If you compare them to Woodward and Bernstein, you know, those guys with the Watergate scandal, they dug and dug and dug and dug and dug and dug and got their sources, cross-referenced their sources.
You know, you've read, you know the story. What a disgrace the press have been.
Anyway, back to the day. So I basically, I went down that Tuesday morning, the 27th of June to meet my good friend Francis O'Neill.
Who I believe you know, he was with his Yellow Boards. They do so much great work, they're grassroots activists, so they stand on roads, on roundabouts, and actually they're getting more and more traction, you know, with all sorts of issues, including the COVID-19 vaccines and the ULEZ, all that kind of, basically, yeah, government and overreach. And it's really, they do great work. So I went down to meet him at Dorland House where this COVID UK inquiry, can I just say before I forget, I saw you talk to Steve Bannon about it, it was, this was a, I wasn't really in any place to kind of talk to many people, but I just wanted to say that in answer to Steve's question about is it a whitewash, it's worse than that actually, it's, if you saw Matt Hancock talking on that, he was actually interviewed that day, the day I went down, he said that he thought the next time the lockdowns should be harder, faster, stricter.
And that they didn't act quick enough and strict enough.
So actually, everything we've said, many of us have said for the last three years, has come true, which is that they're going to, they're trying to corral people into this way of thinking.
So I would just like to make that clear that in a weird way, it's worse than the Watergate scandal because so many of the crimes that have been committed as people are off the charts. I mean, I've seen various people I respect very much, including Brett Weinstein on his Dark Horse pod, say that the Nuremberg Code has been violated purely by using coercion and lack of consent, including informed consent. I mean, it's very important that we get these specifics right. And regardless of what is in, this is the point that I make in my article that I made very clear, including to the police, that what's in these gene therapies, these so-called vaccines, is sort of a side issue. The crime is the coercion.
And when people say, but I wasn't forced, well, yeah, but you were told if you don't get them, then you lose your job, you can't travel, you lose your friends. Do you see what I mean?
If you look up the definition of coercion, it includes blackmail, force, vilification, being told, well, you're a bad person, blah, blah, blah. So it's very important that people understand this. So that's one of the reasons I went down, was because I felt so strongly.
Matt Hancock was in there and people, American viewers who may not know and people from around the world of course who watch this, he was the health secretary during the time, during the 2020 and part of 2021 when the vaccine rollout happened. He was cheering for it, he was fake crying going I can't believe it, we've got this miracle cure that we're going to coerce into the arms of the British people, which is a disgrace in itself. So I went down, met my fellow yellow boards, got into a chat with a few people who were kind of lurking by the entranceway. It's in Paddington, by the way, guys, if anyone, again, not from the UK. Paddington is a kind of main part of London, West London. So this building is kind of on a thoroughfare, on a main road. And then there's a little entranceway where it's kind of, it's like an official building where they were doing the inquiry and by the entrance there was a little table with three people and again in my article.
My Substack article I mentioned this, there were two, I think two men and a woman and they had this like, I thought well they're on our side, you know because they were standing outside, you know how you just, you assume, they looked like the kind of people who would have been on all the marches that I went on and the woman said, I said I'll presume we're on the same side and the woman pointed over to the road where the yellow boards were and said, the anti-vaxxers are over there. Well, Peter, and viewers who know me, the red mist descended. And I just, and I turned, and I said to them, I thought, well, I'm not going to go into the MRNA. I'm not going to go into the scientific detail about what's in these things, because that's model, it's confused people, including myself by the way, so I thought no I'm going to go for the moral argument, which is that the coercion, the lack of informed or consent, any other consent, meant that it was violating the Nuremberg Code.
So serious crimes have been committed against the globe, you know, in 90 countries around the world.
So we're talking about millions and millions and millions of people just with this one action by world governments. And I mean, I've made, I said it slightly less, it was a bit shorter than that, just for, I'm just, I'm expanding because we're talking. And then, so I said that to them, and then turn around and I said, and that's not conjecture, that's fact.
That's fact. So I'm not an anti-vaxxer, I'm anti-tyranny, I'm anti, you know, as you saw in the video, anti-democide, anti-lies, anti-coercion, you know, all those terrible Free speech, you know, being a free individual, all those kind of terrible things which some people are for. 

But can I ask, because obviously the so-called, media on the right that supposedly stand up for free speech, all of that, who were silent for the vast majority and suddenly come out at the very end to say oh look we overspent a little bit on PPE, oh it's really naughty, or the government official got a contract for this, that's really naughty. I mean after you've gone through the last two and a half years of control. So they have, I don't think any of the mainstream media have even called this art as just a whitewash that will hide over everything, because even if you have government failings of spending or the control of cronyism, but it's much deeper than that.
It's collusion with the drug companies. 

Oh, yeah, completely. It's collusion.

Is Hancock, the person who, because it seems so he's been thrown under the bus, kind of, although he'll get a lucrative media career.
It's kind of, well, he did some things, but the rest of us, we carry on as normal.
That seems to be how this will be the outcome.

Well, this is the crazy thing, is that Matt Hancock is, I mean, it's a bit like, I have compared much to people's disgust, what happened to us, to people around the world to the early 1930s in Germany.
I make that comparison with no shame, because it's the truth, or you could compare it to the Soviet Union in the first part of the 20th century, everything that was going on there, or name any other regime where they use force, intimidation, segregation, all those kinds of things.
So you're talking about, I mean, the reason that Matt Hancock is the poster boy is because there's always gotta be a poster boy for the, what's the word, I was going to say scapegoat, but he's not, he's just a criminal.
He's a criminal that happened to be part of a criminal establishment. And I'm very careful by the way to not just to target the Tories because Labour...
In fact, everyone in the House of Commons and the House of Lords and the monarchy, you know, and I'm talking, by the way, if you'd spoken to me in 2019, Peter, I would have been like, oh, well, you know, it's really lovely because we've got the two-party system, you know, we've got the lovely Queen, we've got the whatever, blah, blah, blah. Wow, have my eyes been opened?
You know, it's not about believing in every single conspiracy theory that anyone utters. You know, I'm always, I'm very particular about, this is why I'm so focused on this one issue, which is the last three years, the lockdowns, especially the vaccines in inverted commas, because I feel that such a terrible crime has been committed by, and also let's not forget the United States, you know, and again, I had nothing but love for the States. You know, I was going to to live there before I met my late husband.
So I was going to, I got my visa. I got my O-1, which is a person of exceptional ability.
I got that visa. I was going to go, man. I was going to go in 2008.
It breaks my heart when I look at New York, what they did to Broadway, the Broadway actors.
They made them, they made them get jabbed to like, well, otherwise you just can't work.
So you see these wonder people like guys like Clifton Duncan, who's on, he said, well, I'm out then, I'm out. You, this is my body.
This is my, this is, you know, my holy, sort of God-given body, get away with that stuff.
So the United States, particularly the Democratic, Democrat states, honestly, I never thought I would see America go down that path, but holy shit, balls, guys.
I know many people watching will agree with me, Americans. Canadians did the same thing.
It is quite astounding the level, and I think people need to be aware of this, the level, the comparator between the 20th century, the first part of the 20th century, with all the dictators, with all the tyrants that there were around and that political sort of shadow that was cast, the similarities that there are with today.
Trudeau, Biden, that his administration, in fact most of Europe, many countries, you know Germany and Austria, they were, I mean Austria went full fascist and so did Germany.
They fell back into their, those tropes and maybe it's because there were so many marches and that it didn't go quite as, well I was going to say far as camps, but then Australia did have camps, They had lockdown camps in, is it Hope Springs? Or Hope... Do you remember there's a place in Australia, like a really lovely nature reserve, where people would have just been lovely to hang out and people I'm sure watching maybe have been there. I've seen videos of a woman trying to climb over the wall. She's climbing over a wall like The Great Escape, you know, from the Nazi camp.
And then she's got those guards who like tug her back down.
And then these people sitting there going, doing their video diaries, going, well, I'm sitting here, it's been my fourth day in isolation or whatever, in my, you know, and I'm like, what the hell, what the hell is this?
And the same with a friend of mine, a well-known actor, he had to, well, he got the vaccines to go and work in America and he had to stay in a hotel. This is when he travelled for like...
Maybe like a week or something, but like in a hotel room with like just a balcony.
And honestly, to watch his videos, I was crying. I thought this is against everything that we, all of us, hold dear, you know, left or right. I mean, obviously the left have gone particularly
AWOL, you know, but I've started to think, Peter, because you know that I was a small c conservative, I suppose libertarian, you know, so all my thought processes were kind of down that. But I'm starting to think that actually, you know, this is something bigger, but that definitely has, it has echoes of that communist, you know, sort of, what's the word, collectivization, I would say. It has, that's why I think we look at the left and go, oh yeah, the similarities are so obvious, you know, but I think party politics is over. I think we're coming into a new era now.

Yeah, because obviously the uni-party is the term used over in the state for the Republican Democrats and it seems to be that's across the world and governments combined to control and coerce everyone. I think the worst one in Australia I came across was a family whose child was seriously ill with some condition, the ambulance took them to a specialist hospital, which was over the state border in Australia, and the parents were not allowed to go and see their child as it lay dying. And what level of evilness would make an exception, whatever, but that didn't matter.
It was, no, no, we must follow the diktat. 

Yeah, we must follow the, and that's the extraordinary thing, Peter. And actually, very sadly, I mean, I talk about this a lot on my podcast.
Abi Daily. Well, I've addressed it so many times, I kind of, it's almost like it's a stock record, where you, the sad fact of the matter is that, and I think Graham Hancock may have said this, he's the guy that made the shows about possibly there being other civilisations that may have been around earlier than us, which is that the human race may suffer from amnesia. So you know how people are always saying, look back at history, don't forget history. You know all these wonderful quotes that float around about the price of freedom is eternal vigilance. I don't know who said that, probably an American, but it's true, but the problem is we forget to be vigilant.
What's happened now is that because of that, we're seeing the results of people not turning round and saying, enough. Like I said, I don't want to go into so much the party political thing but with the right, there's been a lot of times where I think to myself, is Roger Scruton enough to fight back, even though he's got great ideas about truth and beauty and goodness, which I totally hold dear, but is it enough for political change? Because at the moment we need more than that, as we've seen with Uxbridge last night. I think people are living in a bit of a cloud cuckoo land. And I say this in all seriousness, it's not going to cut it. With the Tories, we're like, oh, we're anti-ULEZ. Guys, this is the least of our problems and they vote in the Tories. Sorry, did you not see what the Tories have presided over the last three years and further back? I mean, like you said, Peter, though, you're right, it's a uni-party, it's Biden, it's this massive blob of sort of communo-fascist ideology, which is masquerading as, look at us, we're for the people, you know, yeah, we're just like introducing these things, these green things, you know, to save the planet and blah, blah. And of course, like you said, all the while it's for control.
It's just to, because human beings, this is an anti-human ideology. Human beings are sort of like Stanley Johnson has said in his books, they're sort of an inconvenience, human beings, that's his view, rather than, you know, it's a gift from God, your life is a gift from God, you do with it. I was thinking about my grandpa, my wonderful Welsh gramps, Bob Roberts, his name was, and I was thinking, and he said, you know, your life is a gift, your talents are a gift.
Use it. Use them. Use them as fully as you can. I'm not sure what he'd think about me being arrested.
Actually, knowing him, he probably would be going, yeah, that's my girl.
God love him, God rest him. But I think it's true.
I think it's true. We have one life, so we may as well try and make it count.
Not just for us, not just for now, but for the people that come after us.

You're 100%. Can I ask you, the inquiry is a tick box exercise, we see through the BS, the mainstream media will play the game and play along. Before we get on to your campaign making swearing legal again, can I ask you about how do you perceive it? Because as you said, three, four years, four or five years ago, you would have thought actually a two-party system, and we have a monarchy, which is kind of good.
Now, all that our institutions are good for society. They keep us, all that.
And then that's all changed. So we have lost trust in many people, lost trust in the police.
There's no longer policing by consent. It is policing by force.
Absolute change. Biggest change in what, 200 years in policing.
Zero trust in politicians. You see the voting rates so low and across the board.
I mean, the even zero trust in our legal system, our courts anyway, have collapsed under so-called Covid.
And now it takes you a year.
The whole thing has gone to ground. And the Conservatives, what is there to conserve if everything has been burned to the ground?
And how do you view that? I mean, we both we both live in the UK and we would like to believe that institutions are positive for society.
We're the opposite opinion, as are many others. 

Yeah, that's a good point.
I've been thinking about this long and hard, actually. I remember having a conversation with Claire Fox.
Hmm, how disappointing she is. Amazing, you know, how many communist revolutionaries there are who are far from revolutionary.
In fact, if anything, they toe the line, the establishment line.
I've met a few of them. I'm like, I actually said to one, I went, you should be ashamed of yourself that I'm one who's doing all the pushing back. So lots of roles have been reversed with this, which many of your viewers will be aware of, this weird inversion of things, as often happens in history. This isn't unusual. Well, it is, but it's not, if you know what I mean, because we have been here. I mean, there are countries that have suffered under tyrants and perverse ideologies, anti-human ideologies. But what was your question again? Oh, that's a two-party system.

But all the institutions, we've lost this completely. 

Oh, that's it.
Yeah, you've reminded me about the Clare Fox chat. This was way back when I used to be on GB News.
Mm, that's a whole, aren't they doing well, Peter?
Oh, who'd have thought it? Anyway, that's a sight. 

And your favourite journalist there calling you an anti-vaxxer on the day, but that's a whole separate issue.
Your favourite journalist, Tom, what's his name, 

Tom Harwood, yeah. Yes, exactly, who'd look very at home in a Hugo Boss suit and knee-high boots, and that's only at the weekends.
That's from my article. Please read it, it's hilarious and sad at the same time.
So in answer to your question, when Claire Fox and I had this chat when I was first on and she said that she thought the institutions could be saved from within.
And I pushed back on this, I said, yeah, I don't think so, I don't think so, Claire.
Because anyone that knows, this is what's so bizarre, Peter, anyone that knows anything, or claims to have read anything about anything, knows that the long march through the institutions that happened in Mao's China, happened in the Soviet Union, it happened in all these Marxist, let's use this paradigm, seeing as, because I know there will be maybe people watching going, yeah, but you've just said there's no such thing as left and right, but let's use this framework, is that the common purpose, this whole collectivization ideology has been creeping in and it's strangled everything like bindweed.
So it's been happening for like maybe 30 years, maybe more than that actually.
And the problem is, it's everywhere, it's woodworm in all the institutions, so like you said, everything's kind of collapsed.
So I think, this is my personal view, is that no, the institutions should be rebuilt.
And I don't mean build back better, I mean in the good sense that after the Enlightenment, you know, like Erasmus, you know, where we look around and say where are the good, where are the thinkers, the critical thinkers, I mean like myself, like yourself, can we have institutions that are the green shoots of, you know, for the next generation. So you have kids who go, oh, thank goodness for people like Abi Roberts and Peter Mcilvenna and various other people, because they saw the corruption, the evil that's in everything. Like you said, the judiciary, good grief. I was in the police cell thinking they could pin anything on me, these guys. That's a scary thought. I actually also thought, shall I fake a panic attack in the police cell. I was in there, by the way, viewers, for 17 hours. And I thought, and I'm claustrophobic as well, which didn't, I mean, I honestly, I've never prayed so hard in my life or sang so much to keep myself occupied. But I genuinely thought maybe I should fake a panic attack so that they'll let me out and I'll be with some medics. And then I thought, actually.
Given what the medical profession have done the last three years, I would rather stay in the cell.
Now that is, if that isn't a soundbite for 2023, I don't know what is.
Abi Roberts would rather have stayed in a police cell with two Nigerians next door going, eh oh eh eh oh, like Nigerian Teletubbies, no comment, no comment bro, and smearing, you know, as I was told, because I smelt bleach and one of them had smeared his own excrement up the walls.
I would rather have been in that cell, that damn cell, than be with doctors.
So that's where we are, guys. But it's not just the UK, it's everywhere.
So I hope that kind of answered your question, which is I've always believed in the, what the Russians did in Stalin's time, which is obviously you had many people who went along with it, the whisperers, they were called, you know, who whispered to, I may even have said this on one of our chats, that in Stalin's time, a lot of people just went along with it and used to grass up their neighbours and they were called the Whisperers.
It just became this thing. So a lot of people go along with it and actually sort of get quite used to it.
Oh, it's quite nice being locked at home. It's quite nice being forced, coerced into having injections.
Oh, it's quite nice not being able to travel further than 15 minutes outside.
You know what I mean? All these things, that's what happened under Stalin where everyone went, it's quite nice.
Just only being able to have one cow, which the Kulaks, you know what I mean?
All these little things people sort of started to think, well, maybe this is just our lot.
We should rather than thinking, no, this is not our lot. This is not what life is for, what free life is for.
But there were secrets of society. There were secret meetings and the catacombs, the true Christians, so not the Orthodox church that was hand in hand with Stalin.
And they all met and they all prayed and they all, so children, educated children.
So it was all happening, but sort of in parallel.
Do you know what I mean? With the, so my view, and again, I said this to Lawrence Fox on a, God blimey, how the mighty have fallen.
I said to him on a Twitter Spaces that I thought that we should start to have a parallel society.
And he disagreed with that.
Well, look what happened in Uxbridge last night. You know, I may be blonde, I may be a comedian, I may be silly and swear and the rest of it, But you know, a sharper mind you will not find talking about this kind of stuff.
So you people can believe in their Labour versus Tory and their new parties and blah blah, but it's going to take a lot more than that.
It's going to take a hell of a lot more. I mean, put it this way, Peter, I...
Never thought I'd be arrested in this country for saying, fuck off, fuck you, whatever, standing with the police and the press, taking photographs of me outside a building where they were essentially lying about what's happened over the last three years.
And that, but you know, like I said, I'm proud that I'm, it's something that, Um, yeah, that all,
I didn't think I'd be in this position, but I'm I'm glad that I did it. I'm glad.

OK, so one ask about the police side. It seems that we are now at the stage and part of this, a lot of this is a so-called conservative government.
Laws being put in place that give the police absolute right to make up stuff, and it's this whole thing of offens,e of anything which may, possibly might do in the next 100 years to someone reading it in the far-flung galaxy, may find offense, then that is enough.
It seemed as though that was, and it means taking, if you're wearing brown shoes and the policeman thinks, no, I don't like brown shoes, that's offensive.
They can literally come up with anything, and it seemed to be what he said it to you, And it was so funny looking back at him saying, what, if I swear again?
And you're thinking, if I swear again, I should swear.

Well, also, you know, I spoke to an ex-policeman about this, who's on our side, by the way, very much on our side.
So he was very high up in the police.
And I spoke to a couple of people actually about, and obviously I can't reveal too much to you about things which may or may not happen with the process, but he said that if swearing was illegal, then I would have been arrested the first time.
He said that's a point of that. And also, before anyone takes you by the arm, you know, you see the two, I don't know if it's in the clip, but the two policewomen, they really grip hold of me, took my arms.
They're meant to say, We're going to now put our hands on you and take you, this is in the old days, the old school, They had to take you through everything.
So you're seeing people that have been trained in a police college that is riddled with common purpose.
I'm going to go back to that phrase, common purpose, look it up, Peter, you know what I'm talking about.
The communitarian, this wonderful idea that everyone, hey, as long as everyone is abiding by this ideology, then it's okay for you to act beyond your authority.
That's part of the common purpose thing, which is, by the way, a Marxist organisation.
It was set up many years ago by the daughter of a Marxist called Julia Middleton.
So look it up. It's all true.
Whether that is running in tandem or not with what we're talking about, the global tyranny is kind of another matter.
It's almost too coincidental that it's all kind of coming together.
This whole offence thing, and in fact, the Public Order Act 1986 should really have been, I mean, it shouldn't even be there. And I'm very worried, Peter, about this online offence, online harms bill. There's a lot of stuff which will be used, stuff maybe we're seeing now in the media being used about people saying certain things, doing certain things, and Oh, in which case, then let's have let's have harsher laws.
So I would say. 

But on the online city bill, so we've had Signal boss has said they will have to pull out because they do not give back doors to anyone.
Wikipedia have said they will have to shut down their operation in the UK.
I know Telegram have talked about, Apple have said it is.
I mean, everyone is saying this is overreach to the nth degree.
And yet the government don't give a damn. so-called conservative government think this is wonderful, let's shut everyone up.

Yes, exactly. The so-called conservative. I mean, this is what's weird though is I think we have to...
We have to stop thinking in terms of, I'm afraid to say, in terms of Conservative and Labour, because whatever's taken over both those parties and everyone else in the House of Commons, let's be honest, all of them, is a dark force, is a dark ideological force.
So we're in a historical, we are in a first, in Britain, in the sense that I mean, I again never thought I'd be sitting here saying that the two-party system, it's I mean, our democratic system is broken. It's completely broken. It's completely, it's been trashed, it's been stamped on and the people of this country need to wake up and realise that, you know, if you want to go to I mean, I heard someone the other day say, well, maybe China, a Chinese system wouldn't be that bad.
Really? Really? Yeah. Brilliant. How fantastic.
I mean, that's the level. People will go, well, even if we have to live in a tiny flat, a tiny room, you know, with our tokens, you know, with our, what's it?
Compliance tokens, I call them. Yeah. All those things.
And our currency, and have you been well behaved, all that. People, I'm sorry, Peter, but a lot of people, like I've said in history, will go along with it. They'll go, well, what's the worst that can happen?
At least I'll get my food and I'll get my, because they don't prize freedom.
They don't prize the idea. And when I say freedom, I don't mean freedom, like it's this weird sort of slogan.
I mean the free soul, the spirit, The idea that freedom is not just about a word, it's about you and the extension of you around you.
So including things that come out of your mouth, your utterances, all that is sacred.
And including swearing, by the way. And I know people say, I know there might be some Christians watching saying, how could you be a Christian?
Well, I am, I've got my lovely cross on, which by the way, they made me take off in the police station.
I said to them, what am I going to do, stab myself in the eye with it?
It's a cross for heaven's sake. Even though I did hear people down the other cells say we need to pray so they were let out. Hmm.
That's interesting, Peter. 

Look, the thing...
And there's so much we could cover, and I won't keep you all day. But I want to, in, you're arrested. I mean, if you are, you've sworn, and that is illegal, and you can be arrested, something like that should be, you would think, well, you get taken down the station, you get like a 50 pound, 100 pound fine, I don't know what. But you were actually kept, probably because they thought you were a danger to society? What is the benefit of keeping you locked in a cell instead of just processing you in 30 minutes and then letting you go?

Yeah, well, good question. And when I went down there, they told me that I, and again, it's in the article, they told me, the solicitor on the phone said, they'd agreed, they'd suggested, they'd said that this is the police, so they'd give me a £90 fine, which I could either pay in 21 days or take it to court.
So like, you know, dispute it and take it to court. So that was, I was told by the solicitor, she said, you'll be out in the afternoon.
That was the first phone call.
Hours later, when I started to get the feeling that something wasn't quite right, because I was getting, being told different things by the police who were opening the little cell door where they put the food and water in, I thought, hang on a minute, they're gonna try and keep me in for 24 hours.
And according to Francis, who came down to the station, bless him, and stayed there for hours, Francis O'Neill.
And I didn't know that he was there until someone had said, by the way, I think there's a friend of yours out there.
He's been waiting, I was like, oh my God.
Apparently, a separate team got involved, a kind of protest team.
But you know what, when I was in there, one of the coppers, and again, this is in the article, said, we're conflicted about letting you go because we don't know who's gonna replace you.
And as I was leaving, one of the other police women who interviewed me said, we've talked to all the staff here, and they say you're by far the nicest criminal that they've ever met.

They probably wanted to keep you in. Because you would lighten up the mood.

They did. Well, I was just there on my plastic mat reading a book.
I had, because one of the lovely police, well, I say lovely, he was really, he didn't want to shut the door, the cell door.
He didn't want to shut it. And he said, I don't know why you're in here.
He said, you know, he whispered. And then he took me out and he, I chose a couple of books to read. So I was reading, I was there with my Bernard Cornwall.
Which I only know about because James Delingpole mentioned it on his, mentioned it on London Calling. 

Yeah, it must be good. 

And then another book. And I was just there, you know, with my cups of tea, you know, nibbling on a little biscuit. And I was just like there, you know, do praying, singing, thinking, this too shall pass. You know, I'm thinking, I was thinking to myself, you're not Solzhenitsyn. You're not, you're not Nelson Mandela. You're not, You know, many, you know, Artur Pawlowski, the lovely Polish priest who, by the way, can I just quickly say, he needs our help. His trial in Canada is, the verdict is going to be on August the 9th. So this man, you know, who told, who they, the police interrupted an Easter service and he told them they were Nazis and the Gestapo, quite rightly. He then made a speech at to the truckers rally in 2022.
He was then put in prison for 51 days. In prison.
So if he gets found guilty, this is the Canada, the wonderful Canada under Trudeau, he'll get 10 years, 10 years.
So to round this up, it was 17 hours, but it was not in comparison to many people many people who have come before me, including Artur, Artur Palowski, sorry any Polish people if I'm getting the pronunciation wrong.
God love him.
He's one of my true heroes of this time, because he was prepared to say, no, no, I'm not gonna live in a country.
I'm not going to give away my freedom to you and the freedom of my congregation, my flock.
He said, as a shepherd, he said, it's my duty to protect my flock.
And I'm like, oh my goodness, you know? Maybe Calvin Robinson could take a few notes.
I told you, you weren't going to get, Peter knows me, that I have to slip in the odd, well, it's true, come on, enough of the tweed and the baubles.
What about the people?

There are no restrictions, Abi. I don't think we've ever edited, literally, and I say this, start with you.
I think the only, we removed one video, but with someone who just went crazy and started just going at us, that was only one.
Piers Corbyn we removed because he couldn't use a camera and the internet.
So it was just...

Oh bless Piers

It was embarrassing. But I don't think we've ever actually edited or removed anything.
So what's the point? You want the guest on, you want them to talk because you want them to speak.

And I am making, I think I'm making, well, you know, I'm making a point.
And this is something I've, don't forget, you know, I've, I've had a journey over the last three years.
I've contemplate and, and wrestle, struggle with stuff and ideas and, and my faith, and all these kind of things.
And all I would say is that, beware the baubles.
It's become like my catchphrase in my, on my site with my Abi Daily family, and on Twitter, beware the baubles. And what I mean by that is, the Holy Grail was not a jewel-encrusted chalice.
It was a simple wooden cup, and in that cup was the truth.
 And that's all you need to know. 

100%.
Abi, just to finish, just last thought, does this mean that if I go outside now, doing the school run, and I happen to swear, because, I don't know, for whatever reason, a colleague comes to me and I say, holy shit, what was that?
Is that now suddenly, I can now be arrested or something over here?
Or is it simply that the police now have the power to use and abuse whoever they want to at will?

I think it's the latter, you're right. I'm not sure, it's not the, I mean the swear word is part of it, but as Artur Pawlowski says, that when he was living under Soviet, it is in Poland, when the Soviets were around, is that the police could, if they could choose a man, so anyone, and fine something on them.
That's what the police motto was in Poland at that time. So, you know, you look around, pick anyone in the street and you'd find they might have a parking fine, they might've had a row with a neighbour a few years ago, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, all these things.
And the point is, they could just go, Right, you're coming down with us.
So the swearing was sort of incidental to the bigger picture.
So you're right that it is the police powers and because they don't know.
I mean, the guys at the police desk, they didn't even know what coercion meant.
I had to explain to them. I said, don't tell me this is in the police, you know, in full view of all the, everyone working there. I said, don't tell me that there aren't people in this room who were thinking, maybe something might have gone wrong with the vaccines or I might have been harmed.
And then the guy behind the desk said, I wasn't forced, I wanted to go on holiday to Spain.
So this is the kind of people, this is the kind of, they need to go back to, the rule, what the principles of law actually.
So again, we're back to starting new institutions, Peter. We're sort of back to this idea that...
That there needs to be a sort of non-violent, philosophical revolution needs to happen.
Like a new enlightenment, actually.

Completely. We'll finish, Abi Daily, it's in the name, it is Abi every day, tell us what people can find. How do they find it, and how can they actually listen?

Yeah, well, so it's abiroberts.substack.com. you've got it under my name there.
You just go to that address, you then you can listen for free.
You can go on, I don't have any paywall. You can subscribe, you can if you want to donate, chuck in a few quid.
I've got people who do that as well. So there's like, you'll see that I did it free for a year, and then there was pledges. So people pledged.
Quite a few people went, I want to pledge. So then you switch the toggle on and then it changes to this idea that people can say.
So basically, what I'm saying is, everyone's welcome to the Substack family, to Abi Daily family.
I've also got some gigs coming up. I wasn't going to because I had a bit of problems with some trolls.
So I was a bit like I freaked out, but I thought they're not going to win, you damn bastards, you wankers. So I have got gigs coming up at the next week.
I'm doing Newport with Katie Hopkins on Friday the 28th.
Then I've got Southampton 29th with a great bill with Alastair Williams.
Then I've got various things coming up.
Actually, that's the first bit. People will be hearing this on Monday going, we didn't think you were doing any live gigs. Well, fuck you because I am.
I don't care if people want to come along and go, you're whatever, I don't know, you're a loon. I am.

Yeah, we did a few days before, but it's going out on Monday, the 24th?
On Monday the 24th. So everyone will get it.
Make sure, and for the viewers, listeners, make sure and follow Abi on her Twitter or Substack. Everything will be up there. And Abi, you're one of the fun people I've gotten over the last few years.
It's been three years of meeting a whole new set of people and losing a whole load of people as well.

Losing a whole load of, yes. 

I know. 

To the baubles.

Oh, but I love what you do and thank you so much for joining us, Abi, and sharing your crazy experiences getting locked up.

It's my pleasure. One last thing before we clock off is We the People, the book that I'm, and this goes back to the COVID inquiry, Whitewash. We the People is an e-book that I released at the end of last year with lots of stories that were written to me about lockdowns, about jab injuries, et cetera, et cetera. And I'm redoing that book. So it's going to to be really going to be like a e-pub, no, published book.
And there will probably be hard copies. And there'll be a launch and an audio version.
So with Bob Moran's cartoons. So it's going to be laid out.
And I'm going to give it to any person I meet. I was going to say MP.
What good would that do?
But basically, so people can understand the true horror of what's gone on.
And if that's my contribution along with being arrested, Like I said, that's fine by me, you know, and I'll try and keep people laughing as well.

You always do. I look forward to having that launch. 

Yeah, bless you. Come to the launch for sure.

Oh, I'm coming anyway, so just tell me where it is.

Exactly. Just gate crash. 

I'll be there. 

All the best. All the best people gate crash.

I'll be there. Abi, thanks so much for your time today.

Cheers. Not a problem. God bless you all.