The mindcrime liberty show discusses the Taliban's victory and most likely the multi nation coalition dominated by the US leaving Afghanistan. We at the Mindcrime liberty show argue it is a victory. It is a victory for Ron Paul, Scott Horton, Glen Greenwald, Julian Assange and Peter Hitchens. It is a huge loss for arms contractors, neocons, hawkish liberals/progressives, imperial feminists and "Wilsonites" who want to export democracy abroad. This war also exposes some pesky problems for anti war culturally left wing people in a way that is much different then the Vietnam war. The Taliban are very much a socially conservative group which brings certain groups to the front of line in advocacy for war at this point. This defeat also exposes a lot of phoney left wing/liberal anti war people like Stephen Colbert as well as the corporate media at large who peddled all the lies and half truths to get the West involved.