Christine just got back from a magical trip to Mallorca—staying in the home of none other than Saphira (or “Rachael,” as she’s known in Spain). The conversation takes a turn into all things home swapping as Christine interviews Saphira on how she made this travel hack into a lifestyle. From swapping with castle owners in France to navigating the quirks of DC guests, Saphira breaks down the realities of exchanging homes with strangers (and now, mostly friends). They talk about trust, prepping your house, pet-sitting gigs, and why Americans need to rethink the short vacation mindset. Bonus: hear the story of how one swap led Saphira straight into her love affair with Mallorca.