138: ”Success” vs. Fulfillment - Maki Moussavi Returns!

We had the honor of welcoming back Maki Moussavi to talk more about success, fulfillment and the band Tool?  Yes, we talked about all those topics including the band because I discovered we're both fans.  We recapped a few items from our previous talk in episode 57, but really dove into the topics of pain and hustle and some of the delusional beliefs many have surrounding all of that and how it has to be included in the ingredients for success.  We covered a lot of different ground in a very fulfilling and enlightening conversation.