MAKE IT HAPPEN: Let’s make a podcast! | Dan Bracken & John Whirledge

John and Dan set the stage for a wide-ranging discussion on how to do church differently. They discuss the trap of relevancy, call out those who whine about "not being fed", challenge us to sit with others before judging them, redefine the poor and...take away our donuts (how dare they!?). But the conversation starts with a foundational question...