Drs. Kathy Allen and Bill Smedick

In this episode, Drs. Kathy Allen and Bill Smedick share how a chance meeting at NACA and a follow-up phone call started a nearly 40-year mentor-mentee relationship. Both discuss a deep appreciation for nature and evolution and how their shared values and passions contribute to the communities of practice in leadership education. Note: Bill Smedick appeared in episode #18 with Melanie Bullock. They shared NACA's mission and contribution to higher education.