From and Fuller: The net-net of VP debates and did JD Vance really win?

Every Thursday, the Spy hosts a conversation with Al From and Craig Fuller on the most topical political news of the moment.

This week, From and Fuller discuss the true impact of vice presidential debates on election results as well as pushback on the conventional pundit consensus that Republican vice presidential nominee, Senator J.D. Vance, won his recent debate with his Democratic opponent, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz.