Stoke City [H] the verdict .... we were mugged or just paying the price for sloppy defending

At 2-0 up after 15 minutes another convincing home win looked on the cards but it didn't turn out like that as City surrendered that lead to lose 2-3.

Ian, Neil & DaveP dissect the match action. There's some criticism of Naismith as a defender and general bafflement at Nige's quadruple substitution barely 10 minutes into the 2nd half.

We pose the question: would most City fans be happy to accept an indefinite number of seasons on the we are where we are principle and be grateful to the Lansdowns for keeping it that way.

We also look forward to two games in South Yorkshire in the next 7 days.